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Hey there. We recorded an episode on on
Tuesday called Will These Be the Last

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Midterm Elections? We sat down before the
results and they started coming in while

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we were still talking. Near the end,

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I said, I think it'd be interesting to
hear on Thursday and think,

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man, if only they knew we were victorious.

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Well, now we know. We are not posting that
last episode because,

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wow. Like

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Holy shit, did you see what actually came
in?

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We had to record this episode

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Harder less.

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instead. Democrats took the House and the
Senate.

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NBC projects 258 House seats,

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the widest margin

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Thanks.

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the Democratic Party has had in the House
and Senate in 33 years.

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Susan Collins is out after 30 years.

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Ken Paxton is a loser. Governor Abbott,

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gone.

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Texas elected a Democrat governor,

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a Democratic senator, a Democratic
Attorney General,

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a Democratic lieutenant governor,

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and Thor and Cthulhu, please help us all a
Democratic Railroad Commissioner

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after 32 years without a single statewide
Democratic win.

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Kansas elected a Democrat to the Senate
for the first time since the 1930s.

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South Carolina took a

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Back seat Republicans have held from since
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Strom Thurman switched parties in 1964.

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Elon Musk put $168 million into

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two Texas super PACs and got a Senator
Tallerigo.

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The Texas map that cost the RNC $7,500 to
gerrymander and was drawn

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to get Republicans five more seats.

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The reports write.

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That I'm reading today say they lost four
of those five districts.

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Best $7,500 the Democrats never spent.

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And here in Oklahoma, where the top of the
ticket stayed red,

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as tradition demands, Democrats flipped
six state house seats and took

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out the House Majority whip.

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When a Trump advisor told CNN it was
essentially too big to rig.

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So what happens the next time it's close?

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With 17 states' voter files handed to the
Department of Justice and nobody saying

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they came back. Are we safe? Or did we
just win by too much for anybody to try?

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Will, this is the overlap. How are you
doing?

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Come well, Joshua, how are you?

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I'm great. I wasn't directing this is the
overlap at you.

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I was it I just realized I forgot to say
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Yeah.

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So this is the overlap.

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If you're if you're here with us normally,

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we're we're we're usually a little bit
more scripted than this.

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We have a topic, we try to keep to it,

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and it's hard to remember all these
statistics just off the top of our heads.

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Because there are a lot of them.

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Yes. Again, w we like to deal in facts.

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We like the numbers. We like the
percentages.

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We like to know the things. And we're
gonna talk about a lot of those things

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today. Will, how are you feeling today?

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I am upright, so I'm calling it a good
day.

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That is a good day. And I I it feels like
a good day.

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there's a lot of positivity. I even saw a
fantastic video about the city of Austin

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after it was announced that Hina Hosa won
the governorship.

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There was literally horns blaring.

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It was so good.

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I heard comparisons to Coruscant.

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I know you don't watch the Star Wars
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at end of the third Star Wars movie,

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there's a big celebration when the Emperor
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And that was a comparison people were
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It's kind like when all the Ewoks come out
and dance in the streets.

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So yeah, there was a moment.

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Yeah. I I don't know what you're talking

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about, but I assume that's that's a
similar situation.

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yeah, so I I mean, you know, you were you
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you were living in the future.

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That's right.

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so you you got to see the the projections
before I did,

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only I don't think that's how any of that
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No, but it feels good.

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It does feel good. And it feels a little
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like we might be able to fix this,

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maybe turn it around even.

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At least, yeah, at least stop the
bleeding.

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Yeah, so let's talk about some of the
numbers,

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right? In the house, NBC is projecting 258
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33 years the widest House margin.

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They needed 218, they got 40 more than
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Exactly. And now MS Now is actually saying
250 plus,

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right? CBS, who is now owned by the right
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ranges 251 to 268. Like what?

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Wow. Right.

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Where are we living right now?

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The Senate.

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Democrats have about 54 Senate seats,

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with Republicans having 44, which with
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Seven states flip their senator,

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Texas, which obviously

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nobody expected. Ohio by Ramaswamy,

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you know, Iowa, that's Housted,

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right? No, I think Housted is maybe no,

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I think Houstead was Iowa. So you got
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I have some family members in Kansas that
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on Facebook all the time. So in your face.

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and on Kansas anymore.

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right? Maine ousted a 30-year governor.

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North Carolina, where

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you live, also ousted uh a Republican
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Hey, literally

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every vote, every voting county in North
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Entire state didn't get a red one.

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I'm gonna ask you some more about that a
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interesting statistics on Oklahoma as
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South Carolina. So both North and South,

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what was once divided by the literal Civil
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both went blue in this uh semi midterm
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Welcome to the party, South Carolina.

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So let's let's talk about some some names
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right? We have Talerico who who bit beat
Paxton,

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or as we call him Senator Talafrico.

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That's right.

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Jackson beat Susan Collins up there in
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We have Brown beating Husted, we have
Turek beating Henson.

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Andrews beat Darlene Graham, sister of the
late Lid Lindsey Graham.

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I've seen some interesting you know,

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Instagrams today about that. in

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Memory of her brother, apparently she
finished on the bottom.

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Well, hey, look at it this way.

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National Security doesn't learn anything
about national security.

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a political novice, CNN basically says
that Trump pressed to run,

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right? Lindsay Graham's sister,

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uh the the the late loser Darlene Graham
got got pushed out as well.

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Cooper beat Watley, El Sayyed held
Michigan,

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the first Muslim senator in the entire
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Amazing. Governors flipped. You have
Hinahosa over Hot Wheels Abbott.

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We got Georgia, Nevada, Ohio choosing
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who has always been one of those
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regardless. But

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Texas, where both of us lived not too long
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Mm-hmm.

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flipped attorney general, lieutenant
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choosing Goodwin over Dan Patrick,

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railroad commissioner.

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Not one single house or one single
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since nineteen ninety-four. I remember
that year.

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Yeah, we were alive then kids.

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I was in middle school. I know.

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So I guess the the the question I have for
you is is what do you think flipped Texas?

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Taler Rico or or Trump? Or did Texas just
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a different Republican than Paxton?

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Does it still that would it still look
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but I honestly think it took all of those
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I think it took Trump just fumbling it
hard like he did.

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Thank you for that.

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Then I think it took Tallarico being like
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all the stuff that was thrown at him with
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Mm-hmm.

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like, mean, he handled his business.

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And then I think Paxton is an absolute
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I hope that he ends up where he belongs.

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He's one of the few people I got to...

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I'm feeling the goodwill very much today.

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And so I'm not on the revenge path.

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get it. Believe me, I get it. People who
watch people,

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Well, wait till you see where this episode
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Yeah, right. But I will say, I will sleep
better knowing that Paxton is behind bars.

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I will too.

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Um, I I wouldn't be hurt if it was a few
more people than just that.

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Yeah, well, if we ever find the Epstein
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I I don't like it, but I n understand
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I think that it gave uh, you know,

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in Talarico, I think you have exactly what
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which is white, male,

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and Christian, and just

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put it in a blue box and actually

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showed up in the way that, I I actually
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that that morning uh Democratic show
mornings with Joe or whatever

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Joe Scarborough. Yeah

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Joe Scarborough? Yeah.

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he said he he he said something along the
lines of of he's just a good guy.

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He's not a a great guy.

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Now and I don't think he meant that he was
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Focusing on somebody who's insisting on
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we the the Republicans ignored the fact
that he wasn't even good.

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Right. So it's great that

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you're you're you're reaching for great,

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but but can we just start with a good
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And I think that that's what you had in
Tel Rico.

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I agree. think he's a stand up guy.

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And I think he was up against a crook and
all the bombs they launched at him just

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blew up in their faces. I mean,

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it was this beautiful thing.

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And I've never seen a more,

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a more I guess you would say slanted uh
more more slanted skewed look

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at a person versus another person.

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Basically, Tallerico looked and sounded
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of what Republicans say they want and say
they are,

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but they but he had a D behind his name
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that that there are definitely some Texans
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that jump. Not maybe not forever.

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Maybe, maybe just for this election,

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but didn't realize

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enough that that we had the worst possible
human being that could have been running

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for office but had an R behind their name
with the best of who they say they are,

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with a D behind his name, and and now he's
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All right, well deserved.

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I was I I'm not necessarily surprised at
Hina Hosa.

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she was a fantastic candidate.

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and and Governor Abbott was there the
entire time I lived in Texas.

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I I moved to Texas in no 2012.

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I moved when Rick Perry was there.

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So I mean, you've had just this long
legacy of of douchebag Republican

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governors, and it it you know it's nice to
see somebody who doesn't look exactly like

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what what Texas claims they want.

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In leadership going

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up there, we have the first uh Hispanic
female governor of Texas.

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Right. And I will note though that it just
as a point of like bringing it back

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to the facts and the numbers here.

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If I'm not mistaken, I think she received
significantly fewer votes than Telerico

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did, which tells you a lot about what's
going on there,

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right? They were willing to vote Telerico,

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A hundred percent. Right.

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but you know,

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she picked up enough from the down ballot
vote to get in.

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Exactly.

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then look, hey, respect to Texas that they
elected her at all,

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right? mean, because it could have gone

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Hundred percent.

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Telerico only and no other, you know,

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they could have just done Telerico,

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but.

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They did better. Way to go, Texas.

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Yeah, CNN also said that Democrats held at
least eight of the fifteen GOP seats

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redistricted redistricting targeted,

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right? And flipped at least four.

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I love it. Yeah.

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So,

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like literally their entire plot just
collapsed like a flan in a cupboard.

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Um, Vicente Gonzalez. Go ahead.

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Sure, which I will say, I will say again

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though, that does like, this is the
cynical side of me,

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but I think what that says is not the
redistricting doesn't work because

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if it didn't work, they wouldn't have been
doing it all these years,

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right?

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Sure.

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The problem was they were just so bad that
even the redistricted areas voted against

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them because of what's happened this past
year.

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Yeah, they're seeing the actual effects of
this.

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like,

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yeah, I'm just saying like the downer side
is we can't count on those for future

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Democrat votes.

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or future reasonable votes for reasonable
candidates.

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I think we had them one time. Unless
something good happens out of all this,

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maybe people will be convinced that it's
the right way to go for the long term.

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But I think we just, for now, we just have
to consider them one offs.

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But it's still nice. Like you said,

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it's like saying, you're gonna try and
screw with the vote.

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You couldn't screw up the country bad
enough.

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You couldn't draw a line bad enough to get
your guys reelected.

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That's how sad this was.

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Right.

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Of those four seats that were flipped,

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Vicente Gonzalez was winning a seat
redrawn to Trump by 10 plus.

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Like plus 10

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That's insane.

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was was the spread on that, and he still
pulled it out.

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Shamari figures held a seat that was
redrawn to Trump plus 14.

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the same. These were already red
districts.

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Like this this wasn't a hundred percent,

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They weren't more red and then

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yes.

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failed, then failed them completely.

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Exactly. Because they tried to loop in
typically blue areas into one so that that

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that they could they could win the the
bigger picture.

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Yeah.

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So moving on from that, we the last
episode was really about the idea that

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the Republicans paid a guy seventy five
hundred bucks.

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he was definitely a partisan guy.

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He was working for a partisan pack.

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and they paid him seventy five hundred
bucks that we know of.

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to basically draw this new

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Right.

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this new map and and we were we were
talking about how how sad that

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was and how the DOJ had r gotten all these
voter rolls from from 17 different states

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and which ones had had you know talked
about

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redistricting and how California responded
and it was just this kind of kind

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of war back and forth. But I think that it
in general it it really backfired,

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right? Like I mean, the

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Yeah.

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the re even even when you try to stack the
side.

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Now that's not to take away and I'll talk
about this a little bit later,

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some of the see things I've seen that
Texas Republican lawmakers

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are now demanding that the governor do
before Kina Hosa actually gets sworn in.

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But but I think that that really shows
that

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When we get together, right? when we
actually make a decision and say,

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we can do this, but we have to stop this,

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right? Like that that we can

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All right.

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overcome the money. We can overcome,

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you know, the the partisan gerrymandering.

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We can overcome these things. Should they
be illegal?

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Yes, they should be. But until we can we
get back into power,

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they're not gonna be. Right.

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All right.

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Looking at at sort of Tennessee's
Tennessee here.

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So we you had DeJar Lay trailing by 280 uh
in a Trump plus

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24 seat. The Mississippi Senate

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Good.

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Cologne up by literally, and we you want
to talk about voting mattering 43 votes.

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Right.

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Now last night when you know when I went
to bed,

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it was 28. I looked, I checked again today
before the re recorded,

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and it is 43 votes. I mean, so you that's
gonna go to recount,

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right?

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Yeah.

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So I uh

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Yeah.

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we also have Musk, of course. Musk.

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Now I found a really great quote from from
Instagram and and Twitter,

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not Twitter, sorry, I'm not a big Tweeter.

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I actually don't even have an account,

349
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I don't think anymore, but I saw it on
Instagram and I saw a TikTok clip that

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basically he was talking to Tucker Carlson
and he was like

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I'm gonna go to prison. if the Democrats
win,

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I'm going to prison. And I'm really

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Yeah.

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just asking myself if that happens,

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how long the sentence is going to be.

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And you know, maybe. Um, but he put nearly
half a billion dollars right into federal

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committees overall and

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Yeah.

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then posted about his, you know,

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election interfering space lasers.

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Yeah, it's just unfortunate that that's
still couch change to him.

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he'd find

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yeah.

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half a billion dollars in his couch
cushion.

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So I I did see I saw this comparison on a
different social media post,

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I think it was on Blue Sky, where somebody
was saying that from a a well wealth

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perspective, right, this amount of money
they'd put almost almost $500 million,

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would be the equivalent of the average
salaried person spending fifty dollars

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on you know, to to overwhelmingly affect
be able to purchase an election.

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and

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I I think I think that that hopefully now
we start seeing investigations.

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How hopefully we start seeing these
things.

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do you think that there is a a gerrymander
that might have seen this go a different

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way or or does this any does any of this
make you generally feel better?

375
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No, I wish it did, but I think this was
honestly they lost too many Republicans.

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They lost too many of their base.

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Because you when you say no new wars,

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that's that's what tanked Bush senior,

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right? No new taxes. And yet there were
new taxes.

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Say no new wars, then you go start a war
on solo without the support of Congress

381
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Yeah. Still, still.

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or anybody in your party. Yeah,

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still.

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That's that's not no new wars.

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Like that's one at least one new war.

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Right.

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And at least they count that high.

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So yeah, I wish I felt better about it.

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I'll take the win though. I'll take the W
all day long.

390
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Yeah, I I'm I'm seeing it like as a as a a
Gatorator,

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if you will. it's giving me a little bit
of an electrolyte boast to realize that

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we what we're doing matters. What we what
we can do is still to come and

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and we can make a difference if we if if
we understand that solidarity is the only

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way to overcome powers that seem outside
of us.

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The the

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and holding

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both counties apart, accountable,

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right? Like that's gonna be the key.

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Yes. Agreed.

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You can't just do

401
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it on one side. You gotta do it on both
sides.

402
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Yes. And so

403
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So.

404
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so let's talk a little bit about that,

405
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right? So I want to first start with with
Oklahoma.

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Obviously, this is where I live now.

407
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and I've I was incredibly disappointed
last night.

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I mean it basically everything stayed red,

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um, basically, until you actually start
picking apart and looking at the data

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underneath it. I I spent quite a bit of
time last night and even more time than

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that today, um, to talk about a couple
things.

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I I

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I'll be honest, I voted for for Cindy
Munson.

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I supported her campaign. I donated a
little bit of money that I could to her,

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at least for a sign, and we put it out
front.

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And we're hoping other enough people did
the same.

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Now, unfortunately, uh she did not win.

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However, um, there were a couple of house
flips still in Oklahoma,

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and and I've seen some some interesting
maps and data that so first of all,

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we we did flip six seats, taking the
Democratic caucus.

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Of Oklahoma from 20 to 26, right?

422
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So Republicans still keep their
supermajority,

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of course. we had House District 84,

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uh, where Jeffrey Perez beat Tammy West,

425
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the House Majority whip, which is kind of
the most important one,

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from my perspective, from fifty fifty-one
to forty-eight.

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So even in the ones that they did win,

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the election was still pretty close.

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Now Munson lost uh

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about fifty-three percent to about
forty-five percent.

431
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Now the last Democratic woman we had
running for governor was Joey Hoffmeister.

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I voted for her too. Um and she only got
about forty to forty one percent

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of the vote. So we're making gains there.

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And forty six

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Mm-hmm.

436
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or sorry forty five to to fifty three is
still a very narrow margin and it keeps

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improving.

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But looking at it county by county,

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uh, it's what you would expect.

440
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I think I actually think Will and I uh
talked about this audience.

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I think Will and I talked about this after
we had recorded last night when we were

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starting to look at some of the results.

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I said, I I'm pretty sure Oklahoma County,

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Tulsa County, and maybe Cleveland County
in Oklahoma are gonna go for months

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and no matter what. And like always,

446
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it's low information, low education,

447
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and rural voters that ultimately will
bring home the Republicans.

448
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win and and that ended up being true.

449
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So O Oklahoma County, Tulsa County,

450
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and Cleveland counties all went for
Munson,

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but we also flipped Payne County.

452
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So I mean we were like Trump plus 28,

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I think, or so, um, to going going into
this election,

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Wow. oh

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or going to the last election.

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And we have this much movement in the
state.

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So

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It wasn't necessarily a blue blue wave
here in Oklahoma,

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but it was definitely a a red wave with a
blue tide underneath.

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Mm-hmm.

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So the NBC actually reported that the
governor's race moved 28 points toward

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Democrats from the 2024 presidential race.

463
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Wow.

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a 28 point spread would have, wiped out
just about every election in Oklahoma.

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if we'd have grown by that that many
points in Oklahoma across the the area.

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Uh

467
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Mm-hmm.

468
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you know what what do I think it would
take for a Democrat to win statewide here?

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I I

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Unfortunately, I think it would be
probably similar to something that Texas,

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Texas did. They found the the most decent
person in the middle demographic

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of everything that the state wanted to
see,

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except

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Mm-hmm.

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with the letter behind their name.

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but they have a chance for that,

477
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essentially. I mean, uh now Gunter
Drummond was not necessarily a a rhino,

478
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a Republican in name only, but he was
reasonable on some things that that

479
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Historically, Republicans really aren't.

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He he supported a couple of choices,

481
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but we have close primaries, right?

482
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So moderate, moderate voters and
independent voters were locked

483
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out of these elections to be able to
choose who the candidate was going to be.

484
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So it ended up being Mike Maze.

485
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Maisie, whatever. I don't really care how
he pronounces his name,

486
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but apparently he's the next governor of
our state.

487
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Stephanie Bice actually held on to the 5th
district when when I lived up in the city.

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Uh

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she was my my senator and she actually got
uh won barely

490
00:21:01,681 --> 00:21:05,433
49.4% to forty-eight point two percent
over Jenna Nelson.

491
00:21:05,433 --> 00:21:11,162
Jenna Nelson is a wonderful person and and
Republicans still hold all five

492
00:21:11,162 --> 00:21:13,273
congressional seats at every statewide
office.

493
00:21:13,423 --> 00:21:15,504
There were no no Senate flips,

494
00:21:15,504 --> 00:21:18,598
but the Democrats kept all of the eight
members that they had,

495
00:21:18,598 --> 00:21:20,307
uh they had in place at the time and

496
00:21:20,457 --> 00:21:23,958
Julia Kurtz has they contested more seats
than in the last 20 years.

497
00:21:23,958 --> 00:21:25,369
So for s for the

498
00:21:25,048 --> 00:21:25,369
Well.

499
00:21:25,369 --> 00:21:28,991
first time, some people were actually able
to vote for a Democrat where they have

500
00:21:29,031 --> 00:21:30,791
never had the opportunity to before,

501
00:21:30,941 --> 00:21:33,522
and most of the times just didn't get to
vote at all.

502
00:21:33,602 --> 00:21:35,402
And the Republican uh

503
00:21:34,355 --> 00:21:35,355
Hmm.

504
00:21:35,663 --> 00:21:37,943
was was just installed into office.

505
00:21:38,093 --> 00:21:40,894
In Inola, where the smelter, you know,

506
00:21:40,974 --> 00:21:45,296
Mike Maisie first came out for the this
smelter that they wanted to put in,

507
00:21:45,296 --> 00:21:46,786
which was partially owned by the UAE.

508
00:21:47,086 --> 00:21:52,071
Mat Mazie actually took it by about forty
four point six percent to Munson's

509
00:21:52,071 --> 00:21:54,262
thirty-five. And surprisingly,

510
00:21:54,262 --> 00:21:56,934
the window licker, independent Robert
Brooks,

511
00:21:57,395 --> 00:22:00,839
took fifteen percent of the vote in in
Inola,

512
00:22:01,268 --> 00:22:02,043
That's crazy.

513
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,110
in a town that

514
00:22:02,110 --> 00:22:05,583
stit one by more than seventy percent in
twenty twenty two.

515
00:22:05,733 --> 00:22:06,198
Well.

516
00:22:06,198 --> 00:22:07,958
So there's some moves there. you know,

517
00:22:08,318 --> 00:22:10,519
Robert Brooks was a real piece of work.

518
00:22:10,739 --> 00:22:13,140
I got called out several times on his
Facebook page.

519
00:22:13,290 --> 00:22:17,041
Like like he made videos with my face and
then and telling me,

520
00:22:17,041 --> 00:22:19,191
you know, saying that I was stupid and
things like this because

521
00:22:19,191 --> 00:22:20,852
I I had legitimate questions for him.

522
00:22:21,432 --> 00:22:25,383
but what do you well I I I I ask myself
more than anything,

523
00:22:25,383 --> 00:22:28,114
like what would would a person that would

524
00:22:28,266 --> 00:22:32,378
be the same concept as what they Texas did
with Talo Rico,

525
00:22:32,528 --> 00:22:37,442
still look like an Oklahoman in in a race
like that.

526
00:22:37,442 --> 00:22:40,509
And I the truth is, I don't really know.

527
00:22:40,509 --> 00:22:42,396
I I'm I'm barely an Oklahoman.

528
00:22:42,396 --> 00:22:44,958
I've been here now for five years or so.

529
00:22:45,108 --> 00:22:47,770
Going on five years. It'll be five years
next year.

530
00:22:48,371 --> 00:22:53,314
I I think that that Oklahomans are are
such an interesting mixture of Texas

531
00:22:53,314 --> 00:22:54,846
and and Kansas and

532
00:22:54,996 --> 00:22:58,188
They're a little bit north and a little
bit south with a whole lot of native,

533
00:22:58,618 --> 00:23:04,591
which is i is a good thing. And and I'm
not sure that that what w what Oklahomans

534
00:23:04,591 --> 00:23:08,593
consider the the middle demographic is
something that looks very Oklahoman.

535
00:23:08,743 --> 00:23:09,946
Yeah, hard to say.

536
00:23:10,096 --> 00:23:14,744
So I guess w what do you think about this
Robert Brooks getting fifteen percent?

537
00:23:14,744 --> 00:23:20,262
Do you think that that fifteen percent is
a is an for an independent is is more

538
00:23:20,262 --> 00:23:24,548
of a a protest vote or do you see it as
more of a preview for what we're likely

539
00:23:24,548 --> 00:23:26,090
to see in the twenty twenty eight
elections?

540
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,501
I know what I'd like to think about it,

541
00:23:27,501 --> 00:23:30,642
but I think the reality is there just
didn't see widespread enough support.

542
00:23:30,642 --> 00:23:33,743
know, if a few more independents had
really shown some numbers,

543
00:23:33,893 --> 00:23:37,344
I might feel that way. But I feel like
this is more a protest vote and they're

544
00:23:37,344 --> 00:23:39,764
just like, they just couldn't take the
chance that,

545
00:23:39,818 --> 00:23:43,295
you know, of having a democratic governor
in their minds.

546
00:23:43,295 --> 00:23:44,776
um

547
00:23:43,810 --> 00:23:44,776
Yeah.

548
00:23:44,776 --> 00:23:47,297
But they were willing to throw their vote
away.

549
00:23:47,447 --> 00:23:49,158
So couldn't give it to the other

550
00:23:47,841 --> 00:23:49,141
Well, the the the we

551
00:23:49,158 --> 00:23:49,828
side, but.

552
00:23:49,828 --> 00:23:51,948
we did have a c another couple of two,

553
00:23:52,168 --> 00:23:56,990
you know, state questions. One was was
capping was capping property taxes

554
00:23:56,990 --> 00:23:58,231
for uh older

555
00:23:57,682 --> 00:23:58,231
Mm-hmm.

556
00:23:58,231 --> 00:24:02,552
folks who were made too much money to
qualify for the tack like cap that

557
00:24:02,552 --> 00:24:04,933
we already have in place. Voters
overwhelmingly

558
00:24:04,204 --> 00:24:04,933
Right.

559
00:24:04,933 --> 00:24:09,237
rejected that. They also rejected um state
question eight forty-five,

560
00:24:09,237 --> 00:24:12,638
which basically would have allowed for a
full partisan.

561
00:24:12,788 --> 00:24:16,330
nomination committee to be installed in
Oklahoma.

562
00:24:16,330 --> 00:24:17,630
And so they rejected that as well.

563
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:21,181
So we do have those two things to look
forward to.

564
00:24:21,181 --> 00:24:26,442
Oklahoma County also rejected a a sales
tax that was targeted toward

565
00:24:26,503 --> 00:24:29,344
non-Oklahomans, more of a like an

566
00:24:29,423 --> 00:24:29,944
Terrific.

567
00:24:29,944 --> 00:24:32,065
tour a tourist tax, if you will,

568
00:24:32,775 --> 00:24:37,627
that would be placed on on very high
touristy things to support the uh Oklahoma

569
00:24:37,627 --> 00:24:38,988
City jail. Now

570
00:24:39,138 --> 00:24:42,640
Interestingly enough, the Oklahoma City
Jail is currently in the process of being

571
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,732
built. So they actually re reject that
they have no backup plan.

572
00:24:45,732 --> 00:24:46,683
I don't know what they're gonna do.

573
00:24:46,683 --> 00:24:50,224
And I saw some people saying that
apparently they were gonna have

574
00:24:50,224 --> 00:24:55,718
to ask the DOJ to assist with with
finishing the build out of this new jail.

575
00:24:55,718 --> 00:24:58,410
So that's fun. Um

576
00:24:58,271 --> 00:24:58,865
Better hurry.

577
00:24:58,865 --> 00:25:03,388
yeah, right. A little bit of a downside
here is that our voter turnout here

578
00:25:03,488 --> 00:25:06,470
in Oklahoma was was a little over 45%.

579
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,972
And the last midterm, it was a little
higher than 50%.

580
00:25:09,972 --> 00:25:12,973
And in 2018, it was 56%.

581
00:25:13,123 --> 00:25:16,294
Now, Democrats here ran on the same thing
they they ran on nationwide,

582
00:25:16,294 --> 00:25:19,496
lower costs, better schools, better health
outcomes,

583
00:25:19,496 --> 00:25:21,177
and and better paying jobs, right?

584
00:25:21,177 --> 00:25:27,464
So is that a progressive win or or a
candidates finally were recruited win?

585
00:25:27,464 --> 00:25:28,464
I I don't really know.

586
00:25:28,601 --> 00:25:31,165
I don't have any concern with that one.

587
00:25:31,315 --> 00:25:36,367
There was also a Comanche Comanche County
had to manually enter enter their voter

588
00:25:36,367 --> 00:25:40,268
counts because there was some sort of
electronic upload problem with

589
00:25:40,268 --> 00:25:45,879
the results. the ACLU did say that they
were um making sure that they followed

590
00:25:45,879 --> 00:25:48,951
the election protocol guidelines and they
put them in locked boxes and

591
00:25:49,101 --> 00:25:53,838
uh it the announcement actually
specifically said that there were issues

592
00:25:53,838 --> 00:25:55,969
in Oklahoma City, Tulsa, and Norman.

593
00:25:56,064 --> 00:26:01,278
Oklahoma, as well as later reported
Comanche County had those issues with

594
00:26:01,278 --> 00:26:03,029
the upload, not with the count.

595
00:26:03,629 --> 00:26:06,511
And those seemed to have resolved
themselves.

596
00:26:06,511 --> 00:26:11,184
But I I do find it interesting that those
were the three places that very heavily

597
00:26:11,184 --> 00:26:13,415
carried Sandy Munson. And they all had

598
00:26:13,026 --> 00:26:13,595
Mm-hmm.

599
00:26:13,595 --> 00:26:16,627
reported issues with vote tabulation and
vote counting.

600
00:26:16,627 --> 00:26:18,619
But it I also thought we had a bigger

601
00:26:17,727 --> 00:26:18,619
those lasers

602
00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:19,139
turnout.

603
00:26:19,139 --> 00:26:22,595
yeah those lasers, masks, masks,

604
00:26:19,821 --> 00:26:24,025
And turns out we didn't. It it was the the
election voting space lasers that were

605
00:26:24,025 --> 00:26:24,816
blocking the cell

606
00:26:24,339 --> 00:26:24,816
yeah

607
00:26:24,816 --> 00:26:28,519
phone uploads of these these hacked
Russian vote counting machines.

608
00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:29,580
Um

609
00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:30,421
That's right.

610
00:26:30,621 --> 00:26:35,726
anyway, I I we can move on from from our
my individual state and and Will,

611
00:26:35,726 --> 00:26:39,750
do you have any any thoughts on on North
Carolina um specifically?

612
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:44,173
I went on the breakdown because I think
Oklahoma expected Oklahoma to go blue.

613
00:26:44,323 --> 00:26:49,261
Or at least purple and it went so deeply
red with a very tumultuous undercurrent

614
00:26:49,261 --> 00:26:50,207
of blue. So

615
00:26:50,207 --> 00:26:54,367
Yeah, no, I'm just happy that the whole
state was unified.

616
00:26:54,367 --> 00:26:55,727
That's really what it comes down to for
me.

617
00:26:55,827 --> 00:26:58,227
mean, for what it's worth, it doesn't
really matter what I am,

618
00:26:58,367 --> 00:27:00,887
but nobody cares. But I would consider
myself an independent.

619
00:27:00,887 --> 00:27:04,427
So when I say these are wins, I'm talking
about wins for the country or wins

620
00:27:04,427 --> 00:27:06,347
for Americans in general, not wins

621
00:27:05,907 --> 00:27:06,347
Right.

622
00:27:06,347 --> 00:27:10,727
for a particular party, because I don't
have any desire to see an unchecked

623
00:27:10,727 --> 00:27:13,847
Democratic agenda any more than I want to
see an unchecked Republican agenda

624
00:27:13,847 --> 00:27:15,707
or virtually any.

625
00:27:15,857 --> 00:27:19,582
agenda that's out there. I'm just looking
for people to say,

626
00:27:19,732 --> 00:27:22,783
we've looked, we've gotten real close and
we've got to have a good look into

627
00:27:22,783 --> 00:27:24,414
the abyss and we don't want that.

628
00:27:24,414 --> 00:27:26,326
Let's give this America thing one more
shot.

629
00:27:26,367 --> 00:27:28,830
And I feel like that's what kind of
happened last night.

630
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:30,269
The enlightened centrist.

631
00:27:30,419 --> 00:27:32,026
I just, you know, I don't know.

632
00:27:32,176 --> 00:27:33,140
I just feel good about it.

633
00:27:32,191 --> 00:27:33,201
I've I've talked about this

634
00:27:33,201 --> 00:27:35,874
before. I I have my whole trump trampoline
theory.

635
00:27:35,874 --> 00:27:37,685
I almost said trampoline. please,

636
00:27:37,706 --> 00:27:39,146
I hope he doesn't rename them now.

637
00:27:39,307 --> 00:27:41,769
but I I have this trampoline theory that I
think it takes

638
00:27:40,832 --> 00:27:41,832
How you felt?

639
00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:46,202
all of the springs, right? it takes it
takes springs of of every every kind,

640
00:27:45,770 --> 00:27:46,202
Yeah.

641
00:27:46,202 --> 00:27:51,406
color, quality, and and thought to keep
the United States as a country in constant

642
00:27:51,426 --> 00:27:55,282
you know elevation. it that's what keeps
the whole trampoline actually bouncing

643
00:27:55,282 --> 00:27:57,484
and r working and not not falling to the
ground.

644
00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:00,580
but I think we have had an imbalance here
since twenty sixteen,

645
00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:02,491
in general in our country. Um,

646
00:28:02,493 --> 00:28:06,014
that what really is the minority in this
case,

647
00:28:06,014 --> 00:28:07,735
and and I I want to highlight that,

648
00:28:07,735 --> 00:28:11,705
I I still think that conservatives are the
minority in this country,

649
00:28:11,705 --> 00:28:16,163
they got really loud and really good at
being the loudest in the room.

650
00:28:16,163 --> 00:28:20,387
And I think that what the non-right wing
people saw.

651
00:28:20,563 --> 00:28:24,537
From this election, and what we can take
as part of the results is that

652
00:28:24,537 --> 00:28:27,449
we are not a majority conservative.

653
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:34,015
We are a majority reasonable. And when any
majority or any minority

654
00:28:34,175 --> 00:28:40,478
tries to rise up and claim that they have
any sort of superiority over any other

655
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,700
uh faction within our government,

656
00:28:42,850 --> 00:28:46,863
that we have a both a right but also a
responsibility.

657
00:28:47,013 --> 00:28:48,534
to remind them that they don't.

658
00:28:48,684 --> 00:28:53,195
Right. This was a lot about protecting the
classes that couldn't protect themselves

659
00:28:53,345 --> 00:28:55,156
from the government, which is awesome.

660
00:28:55,156 --> 00:28:57,808
I think, like you said, the trampoline
theory makes a lot of sense.

661
00:28:57,808 --> 00:28:59,168
And if you lose too many springs,

662
00:28:59,318 --> 00:29:01,139
you end up on America's Funniest Videos,

663
00:29:01,139 --> 00:29:03,000
and not in a good way. um

664
00:29:02,512 --> 00:29:03,000
Right.

665
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,362
And that's where I was afraid we were
headed on this last bounce.

666
00:29:06,512 --> 00:29:07,177
But thankfully,

667
00:29:06,755 --> 00:29:07,177
Same.

668
00:29:07,177 --> 00:29:08,193
it looks like we held together.

669
00:29:08,196 --> 00:29:12,873
Yeah. So let's move on to a little bit of
what of what the internet looked like

670
00:29:12,873 --> 00:29:14,371
today. Um, you know,

671
00:29:13,808 --> 00:29:14,808
my word.

672
00:29:15,072 --> 00:29:16,713
these are these are our words,

673
00:29:16,713 --> 00:29:22,237
right? These are our Will and I both
created this this podcast and created this

674
00:29:22,237 --> 00:29:25,597
this vision to to get people together
because

675
00:29:25,747 --> 00:29:28,938
We think that the the middle is actually
the majority.

676
00:29:29,088 --> 00:29:32,579
And the middle wants to work together to
come to compromise and figure

677
00:29:32,579 --> 00:29:37,431
out how we all can move forward together
into time because you no matter how much

678
00:29:37,581 --> 00:29:39,721
you want to, you can't just stop it,

679
00:29:39,761 --> 00:29:42,042
right? And and we certainly can't go
backwards.

680
00:29:42,462 --> 00:29:45,883
So how do we do this in the most
reasonable and responsible way to where

681
00:29:45,883 --> 00:29:48,594
the least people are hurt and the most
people are helped?

682
00:29:49,109 --> 00:29:50,720
the right reacted.

683
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,122
last night as well and and into today.

684
00:29:52,012 --> 00:29:53,240
That's the word for it.

685
00:29:53,561 --> 00:29:56,215
Yes. Trump, the president of the United
States,

686
00:29:56,215 --> 00:29:59,253
did appear on Fox News. I say appear,

687
00:29:59,253 --> 00:30:01,808
uh, I don't think he appears. He does.

688
00:29:59,507 --> 00:30:01,964
Wait, wait. I thought he hated Fox News
just last night,

689
00:30:01,964 --> 00:30:03,699
wasn't it? Isn't it their fault?

690
00:30:02,329 --> 00:30:05,091
He does. Um, but he called in.

691
00:30:03,699 --> 00:30:05,395
Isn't it their fault they lost?

692
00:30:05,632 --> 00:30:06,852
He called in. He has

693
00:30:06,508 --> 00:30:07,002
OK.

694
00:30:07,002 --> 00:30:11,676
he has apparently a phone number to just
being live on Fox News at any given

695
00:30:11,676 --> 00:30:12,086
moment.

696
00:30:12,086 --> 00:30:13,891
or anywhere else in the world for that
matter.

697
00:30:13,891 --> 00:30:16,178
m

698
00:30:14,503 --> 00:30:16,263
Yeah. So he says,

699
00:30:16,304 --> 00:30:17,824
he he said that told Fox News,

700
00:30:17,824 --> 00:30:21,165
and this is just a a a blurb. I'm not
going read the whole statement.

701
00:30:21,185 --> 00:30:25,156
but he says that it bear he bears
responsibility for these losses

702
00:30:25,156 --> 00:30:31,278
by consistently or sorry. It quote bears
responsibility for these losses

703
00:30:31,278 --> 00:30:36,010
by constantly and consistently putting on
the Democrats opposition.

704
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,401
And worse. I don't know what that means.

705
00:30:38,401 --> 00:30:39,521
That's a direct quote.

706
00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:42,694
And it's not or it's them, not me.

707
00:30:42,854 --> 00:30:45,296
My numbers are better than they have ever
been.

708
00:30:45,446 --> 00:30:46,987
So I think what he's saying here is that

709
00:30:46,447 --> 00:30:47,047
Yeah.

710
00:30:47,047 --> 00:30:50,610
that that the Republicans lost because of
their issues,

711
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:55,374
not because it was a greater ballot
measure about the efficacy or,

712
00:30:55,514 --> 00:30:58,266
you know, the the presidency that is the
Trump presidency.

713
00:30:58,416 --> 00:31:02,079
And I think specifically Fox News for
putting the Democrats and for giving them

714
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:03,510
a platform is what he was accusing,

715
00:31:03,510 --> 00:31:05,993
even though they come on there basically
to get beaten up.

716
00:31:06,143 --> 00:31:09,026
But I think he was saying that Fox News
gave him too much airtime.

717
00:31:09,026 --> 00:31:13,069
But also, I also think he's saying that he
doesn't understand how numbers work.

718
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:14,411
That's what I'm taking away from this.

719
00:31:14,413 --> 00:31:15,753
No, I I I think

720
00:31:15,753 --> 00:31:20,785
it's worse. Like I think his his human
printer is is only showing him direct

721
00:31:20,785 --> 00:31:23,964
quotes and completely fabricated
hallucinations from,

722
00:31:23,964 --> 00:31:28,048
you know, Grok AI or something about what
reality looks like.

723
00:31:28,048 --> 00:31:32,839
And he believes it. I I he also mentioned
he also said that he was

724
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:35,830
not on the ballot, but had he been on the
ballot,

725
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:37,561
he would have won in a landslide.

726
00:31:37,711 --> 00:31:42,151
Yeah, yeah. Connect those dots for me and
let's see what kind of picture it puts

727
00:31:42,151 --> 00:31:44,031
together, because I'm...

728
00:31:42,264 --> 00:31:44,025
Well, you you mentioned Jessica Tarlov.

729
00:31:44,025 --> 00:31:44,275
He

730
00:31:44,275 --> 00:31:46,026
he said that she was dumb as a rock.

731
00:31:46,727 --> 00:31:49,568
that Bill DeBlasio was a ranting,

732
00:31:49,568 --> 00:31:51,588
was ranting and raving like a lunatic.

733
00:31:51,738 --> 00:31:53,588
Then he called into Fox and said,

734
00:31:53,588 --> 00:31:55,019
congratulations to the Democrats.

735
00:31:55,019 --> 00:31:58,020
I do want to mention that. He did actually
say congratulations.

736
00:31:58,943 --> 00:31:59,258
Right.

737
00:31:58,961 --> 00:31:59,441
he did

738
00:31:59,441 --> 00:32:02,922
say that he intends to work with the
Democrats.

739
00:32:03,072 --> 00:32:07,214
He specifically said something that an
advisor probably told him

740
00:32:07,214 --> 00:32:09,695
to say and actually didn't change it.

741
00:32:09,849 --> 00:32:12,601
Didn't make it dumb, didn't call them
Democrats,

742
00:32:12,641 --> 00:32:14,942
actually congratulated them on their wins,

743
00:32:15,123 --> 00:32:18,605
and that said that he would he would work
with them going forward.

744
00:32:18,725 --> 00:32:20,315
Now, take that for what it's worth.

745
00:32:20,465 --> 00:32:20,985
Right.

746
00:32:20,919 --> 00:32:21,020
how

747
00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:22,657
many know that forward is to jail?

748
00:32:22,657 --> 00:32:25,823
You start thinking about things a little
differently.

749
00:32:25,973 --> 00:32:31,286
Yes. So Sean Davis from the the Federalist
actually said that Senate GOP leadership

750
00:32:31,286 --> 00:32:34,155
should all resign tomorrow. Utter
incompetence

751
00:32:33,877 --> 00:32:34,155
Mm-hmm.

752
00:32:34,155 --> 00:32:36,216
all around, lazy, incompetent,

753
00:32:36,216 --> 00:32:41,968
and completely brain dead. Bo Luden said
Rhino senators stabbed Trump in the back

754
00:32:41,968 --> 00:32:44,408
by not passing the Save America Act.

755
00:32:45,373 --> 00:32:48,479
Okay, that was was done.

756
00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:48,270
I know it it it's great.

757
00:32:48,629 --> 00:32:52,371
Right? Jack Basobiak said we will not
surrender.

758
00:32:52,521 --> 00:32:54,943
the United States of America to Marxism.

759
00:32:54,943 --> 00:32:57,704
the he quoted that in the Independent,

760
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,508
Congrats, Jack. Nobody's asking.

761
00:32:57,885 --> 00:33:02,258
right? the Independent notes no credible
candidate identified as a communist.

762
00:33:02,478 --> 00:33:07,552
They they felt it necessary to to to check
Jack Basobiak on that.

763
00:33:07,197 --> 00:33:07,591
We're not going

764
00:33:07,591 --> 00:33:09,002
to turn to the Care Bears either.

765
00:33:09,152 --> 00:33:11,674
I yeah, I I don't know. Well if you had to
guess,

766
00:33:11,674 --> 00:33:14,868
which of these people and their their
comments so far,

767
00:33:15,018 --> 00:33:16,740
which of them actually believes it?

768
00:33:16,861 --> 00:33:18,443
And which of them do you think is just,

769
00:33:18,443 --> 00:33:21,758
you know, doing it for the the the lols
and the follows and the like?

770
00:33:21,908 --> 00:33:25,729
I actually think Trump might be
schizophrenic because I think half

771
00:33:25,729 --> 00:33:27,440
the time I read him, I watch him and I'm
like,

772
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,801
he actually believes this stuff.

773
00:33:28,951 --> 00:33:29,991
And the other half of time, I'm like,

774
00:33:29,991 --> 00:33:33,403
he is totally playing a game. I don't know
if he knows which is which or when he's

775
00:33:33,443 --> 00:33:36,714
in what state of mind, but I think maybe
it's both for him.

776
00:33:36,714 --> 00:33:38,635
And I think for the,

777
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,646
Does point to dementia less than
schizophrenia.

778
00:33:39,796 --> 00:33:43,629
well, perhaps I'm just talking about more
of the like less about forgetting about

779
00:33:43,629 --> 00:33:45,180
it and just like being a totally different
person.

780
00:33:45,330 --> 00:33:45,636
Right.

781
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:45,860
Dissociative

782
00:33:45,860 --> 00:33:47,060
identity disorder would be, I guess,

783
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:51,740
the proper, yeah. Yeah.

784
00:33:47,645 --> 00:33:48,947
I was I was thinking that too.

785
00:33:48,947 --> 00:33:51,850
Like we used to call it MPD, but D I D is
now what it's called.

786
00:33:51,850 --> 00:33:55,254
Um I seen it too, just like he said.

787
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,080
Yeah. So no, yeah.

788
00:33:55,254 --> 00:33:57,057
Like he said he was willing to work with
Democrats.

789
00:33:57,057 --> 00:33:58,158
And then but like twelve

790
00:33:57,805 --> 00:33:58,158
Right.

791
00:33:58,158 --> 00:33:59,800
minutes later called them Democrats.

792
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,601
Like what?

793
00:34:00,601 --> 00:34:03,391
right? To be fair, he doesn't know how to
pronounce words very well.

794
00:34:03,521 --> 00:34:04,530
That's that's true.

795
00:34:03,891 --> 00:34:04,591
So it could

796
00:34:04,591 --> 00:34:06,351
have been a legitimate mistake.

797
00:34:06,351 --> 00:34:08,170
But yeah, I would say the leaders,

798
00:34:08,170 --> 00:34:10,710
the ones who call out everybody and like
her just pointing their fingers

799
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:11,851
all the way around and, you know,

800
00:34:11,891 --> 00:34:12,851
everybody should resign tomorrow,

801
00:34:12,851 --> 00:34:14,391
that kind of stuff. The

802
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:14,391
Right.

803
00:34:14,391 --> 00:34:16,871
quote from Sean Davis that strikes me as a
true believer.

804
00:34:17,021 --> 00:34:20,292
Okay. I I I I saw some people reacting
with dread.

805
00:34:20,292 --> 00:34:22,913
Joey Manorino said they're going to be
ruthless.

806
00:34:22,913 --> 00:34:25,404
This is gonna be two years of pure hell.

807
00:34:25,554 --> 00:34:30,616
Tim Pool said this is a great a blue great
mud flood.

808
00:34:30,766 --> 00:34:32,947
Now that feels a little bit pointed.

809
00:34:31,939 --> 00:34:33,206
Feel like that's racist.

810
00:34:33,327 --> 00:34:37,068
Yeah. I I I have a feeling coming
especially from Tim Pool that that's

811
00:34:37,188 --> 00:34:39,960
directly racist. The ugliest, um

812
00:34:38,983 --> 00:34:40,398
That's so unnecessary.

813
00:34:40,548 --> 00:34:42,297
right, the ugliest response, uh

814
00:34:42,447 --> 00:34:46,384
I say ugliest in in quotes, uh was from El
Sayed.

815
00:34:46,384 --> 00:34:51,457
Reuter said uh says that Trump repeatedly
branded him as a jihadist during

816
00:34:51,457 --> 00:34:53,357
his campaign. And after the wind,

817
00:34:53,357 --> 00:34:58,180
the DDIA tracked Spanish language
right-wing outlets saying he would push

818
00:34:58,180 --> 00:35:04,353
Sharia law in Islam, and calling called it
the beginning of the end of the West,

819
00:35:04,503 --> 00:35:08,225
with replies asking if the country had
forgotten about 9-11.

820
00:35:08,375 --> 00:35:12,455
I think they actually did him a favor as
much as it's horrible and horrific that

821
00:35:12,455 --> 00:35:13,695
they would treat somebody that way.

822
00:35:13,915 --> 00:35:17,675
I think they actually did him a favor
because he so clearly wasn't that,

823
00:35:17,825 --> 00:35:19,105
that you could see the contrast,

824
00:35:19,185 --> 00:35:20,205
right? It's kind of like Telerico.

825
00:35:20,305 --> 00:35:21,845
Like they just went overboard on him.

826
00:35:21,995 --> 00:35:23,975
And when you go so far to make it absurd,

827
00:35:24,115 --> 00:35:26,235
it's like, well, okay, why are you doing
this?

828
00:35:26,656 --> 00:35:28,369
Yeah. For sure.

829
00:35:27,195 --> 00:35:28,715
You don't even believe what you're saying.

830
00:35:28,865 --> 00:35:29,965
So don't ask me to.

831
00:35:30,115 --> 00:35:34,107
right. Buck Sexton said sometimes you get
your ass kicked and deserve it.

832
00:35:34,227 --> 00:35:35,998
He lists mistakes, candidates,

833
00:35:35,998 --> 00:35:40,429
prices, and an unnecessary war and and
doesn't actually name Donald Trump

834
00:35:40,429 --> 00:35:43,660
specifically. And and look, these are
these are the loudest social media

835
00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:46,001
accounts, right? And the the voters

836
00:35:45,423 --> 00:35:46,001
Great.

837
00:35:46,001 --> 00:35:48,472
who actually moved are not in these
people's groups.

838
00:35:48,472 --> 00:35:52,333
I mean, you know, it's these people are
safely planted where they're where their

839
00:35:52,373 --> 00:35:56,485
audience is biggest. And I think they do
have a responsibility ultimately to

840
00:35:56,635 --> 00:36:02,563
keep their audience. So I guess here comes
the the bigger question that asks

841
00:36:02,584 --> 00:36:03,475
are we safe?

842
00:36:03,475 --> 00:36:03,983
Yes.

843
00:36:03,983 --> 00:36:04,983
yes.

844
00:36:05,092 --> 00:36:06,989
This election, in this election,

845
00:36:07,139 --> 00:36:09,226
in this election, we're safe. this one's
not going

846
00:36:08,491 --> 00:36:09,226
Okay. I

847
00:36:09,226 --> 00:36:10,329
back to the, yeah.

848
00:36:10,410 --> 00:36:12,571
with that qualification, I I would agree
to it.

849
00:36:12,571 --> 00:36:16,374
I I a Trump advisor told CNN the result
was essentially too big to rig.

850
00:36:16,394 --> 00:36:18,285
I think that is a a

851
00:36:17,811 --> 00:36:18,285
Exactly.

852
00:36:18,285 --> 00:36:22,372
good one, right? I I think that the
advisors and and the pundits

853
00:36:22,372 --> 00:36:27,995
and all of the talking heads on on Fox
News basically didn't expect this this

854
00:36:28,015 --> 00:36:33,139
massive of a shift, right? Trump told the
New York Times he is absolutely willing

855
00:36:33,139 --> 00:36:34,679
to accept the results. I mean,

856
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:36,040
that's a quote. Absolutely willing to

857
00:36:36,274 --> 00:36:39,379
Willing to accept the results and will
work with Democrats.

858
00:36:39,529 --> 00:36:41,329
Right. I he's got no choice, but yeah,

859
00:36:41,409 --> 00:36:45,189
that's, I mean, was, I was never seen
watching the earlier returns come in.

860
00:36:45,409 --> 00:36:47,709
We were first talking about this year as
we were wrapping up our show.

861
00:36:47,859 --> 00:36:48,979
And I'm like, man, they're just talking
about,

862
00:36:49,099 --> 00:36:50,539
they're like, it's so close. Like all the,

863
00:36:50,619 --> 00:36:51,619
all these Democrats are leading,

864
00:36:51,659 --> 00:36:52,539
but they're like, it's so close.

865
00:36:52,539 --> 00:36:54,539
And they have voting always goes to the
Republicans.

866
00:36:54,659 --> 00:36:55,659
You know, it's like early voting is

867
00:36:55,397 --> 00:36:55,659
Right.

868
00:36:55,659 --> 00:36:57,999
always favoring Democrats and day of goes
to the Republicans.

869
00:36:58,373 --> 00:37:01,544
Yep. I heard the same thing and I

870
00:36:58,579 --> 00:37:00,079
So was like, man, we're going to lose all
these.

871
00:37:00,459 --> 00:37:01,459
then next thing I know.

872
00:37:01,544 --> 00:37:04,215
I felt that same that same trepidation for
sure.

873
00:37:04,365 --> 00:37:07,285
Now look, there's still there's still some
some outstanding races,

874
00:37:07,285 --> 00:37:08,795
right? let's talk about a couple of them.

875
00:37:08,795 --> 00:37:12,366
So you've you've got the whole Alaska
situation with Dan Sullivan.

876
00:37:12,516 --> 00:37:14,296
we did talk about that on the last show as
well.

877
00:37:14,371 --> 00:37:16,537
Uh it's Dan Sullivan versus Dan Sullivan.

878
00:37:16,537 --> 00:37:20,168
We don't know who won, but Trump's DOJ has
already filed a lawsuit.

879
00:37:20,358 --> 00:37:21,528
they filed it before the election.

880
00:37:21,528 --> 00:37:25,449
It wasn't new. that basically is own
they'll drop it.

881
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:28,281
If the right Dan Sullivan wins,

882
00:37:28,341 --> 00:37:31,494
both the right and the right Dan Sullivan
wins.

883
00:37:30,919 --> 00:37:31,919
the right.

884
00:37:31,974 --> 00:37:36,407
And if Dan J. Sullivan, the the Democrat
would would win,

885
00:37:36,407 --> 00:37:39,059
they were going to continue forward with
the lawsuit.

886
00:37:39,279 --> 00:37:46,166
You've got Peltola, 102,701 uh to so Dan
Sullivan

887
00:37:46,316 --> 00:37:50,118
Peltola, is that right? Senator Sullivan
is at 102,000

888
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:54,614
thousand seventy-five. So right now
there's like there's about six hundred

889
00:37:54,614 --> 00:37:56,006
and twenty-five votes between them,

890
00:37:56,660 --> 00:37:57,147
Yeah.

891
00:37:57,147 --> 00:37:57,928
with only

892
00:37:57,928 --> 00:37:59,170
seventy-four percent counted.

893
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,149
And don't they do a rank choice for if
nobody gets 50?

894
00:38:02,299 --> 00:38:05,040
I do believe that they do use ranked
choice voting.

895
00:38:05,101 --> 00:38:07,962
So we will we will probably find that out
soon.

896
00:38:08,112 --> 00:38:13,075
The other Dan Sullivan has three thousand
five hundred and eighty-three right now.

897
00:38:13,095 --> 00:38:14,866
So more than five times a gap.

898
00:38:14,866 --> 00:38:18,067
It's pretty sure not going to be the wrong
Dan Sullivan.

899
00:38:18,267 --> 00:38:20,168
but it's looking like Peltola

900
00:38:18,385 --> 00:38:20,408
Right, he's not likely in the running.

901
00:38:20,558 --> 00:38:23,749
right. They the actual running is really
gonna be between Sullivan and Peltola.

902
00:38:23,749 --> 00:38:26,541
So we're not gonna see that case from the
DOJ move forward at all.

903
00:38:26,976 --> 00:38:27,976
which, you know.

904
00:38:28,081 --> 00:38:31,723
it's fine. I I think it's pretty dumb that
you have a contingent case upon who wins.

905
00:38:31,723 --> 00:38:34,385
that feels like a like a toddler throwing
a tantrum.

906
00:38:35,225 --> 00:38:39,606
I don't know that that really it says
necessarily that the system hold.

907
00:38:39,606 --> 00:38:45,159
We also have Mississippi, with Colum where
the it's I mean it at one point

908
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:49,072
it was twenty eight votes. Like I would ab
I mean at a governor's race,

909
00:38:49,222 --> 00:38:51,284
I would absolutely ask for a recount.

910
00:38:51,284 --> 00:38:52,895
Twenty eight is a rounding error.

911
00:38:52,046 --> 00:38:53,046
Mm-hmm.

912
00:38:53,399 --> 00:38:54,080
When you're looking at the

913
00:38:53,757 --> 00:38:54,080
Right.

914
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,392
number of people who voted there.

915
00:38:55,532 --> 00:38:59,147
do you think that do you think that this
is the system kind of holding?

916
00:38:59,147 --> 00:39:01,971
Like the checks and balances are still
correctly in place,

917
00:39:01,971 --> 00:39:07,217
or did we just win by too much for anybody
to actually try or or what happens?

918
00:39:06,686 --> 00:39:07,866
Unfortunately, I think it's the latter,

919
00:39:08,459 --> 00:39:08,806
Yeah.

920
00:39:08,806 --> 00:39:11,486
think, I'm very, happy with the outcome of
this,

921
00:39:11,506 --> 00:39:14,446
but I read virtually nothing into this
election for the future.

922
00:39:14,446 --> 00:39:16,206
There's very little that I think it says
about the future.

923
00:39:16,356 --> 00:39:21,509
Exactly. So so that is actually the the
the kind of turn that we're gonna take

924
00:39:21,509 --> 00:39:25,280
and talk about now what this election
actually got us.

925
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:27,041
Because all of these things are great.

926
00:39:27,041 --> 00:39:28,402
And you heard us at the beginning here.

927
00:39:28,402 --> 00:39:32,820
We're we're in excited. We have a little
bit of hope for the first time in I don't

928
00:39:32,820 --> 00:39:36,003
know, 10 years. Yeah, you know.

929
00:39:34,642 --> 00:39:36,157
It feels like, yeah.

930
00:39:36,003 --> 00:39:36,333
No, I'm

931
00:39:36,333 --> 00:39:40,355
pretty sure it's 10 years when he walked
down the escalator in 2016 or whatever.

932
00:39:39,932 --> 00:39:40,776
That's true.

933
00:39:40,776 --> 00:39:42,197
so I you know it's it's

934
00:39:42,347 --> 00:39:46,199
It's been a dark day, but this election
did bias some things,

935
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:49,272
right? And now hopefully. it got us
subpoenas,

936
00:39:49,922 --> 00:39:52,223
hopefully, appropriations, hopefully,

937
00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:56,146
oversight, hopefully. And Senate control
of those of confirmations now,

938
00:39:56,146 --> 00:39:58,187
right? So New Congress

939
00:39:57,350 --> 00:39:58,348
That's a given at least.

940
00:39:58,348 --> 00:40:00,109
gets sworn in on January third,

941
00:40:00,109 --> 00:40:04,411
twenty twenty-seven. and Robert Garcia
said lawyer up.

942
00:40:04,652 --> 00:40:06,433
Wyden posted subpoenas.

943
00:40:06,583 --> 00:40:08,455
This could get us these things.

944
00:40:08,605 --> 00:40:10,636
Right. Here's what it doesn't buy though,

945
00:40:10,636 --> 00:40:12,157
right? It doesn't buy any laws.

946
00:40:12,307 --> 00:40:15,870
Trump posted before all of this a veto
hat,

947
00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:17,811
giant red hat with a veto on it,

948
00:40:17,961 --> 00:40:20,764
and told the New York Post, I guess I'll
become Mr.

949
00:40:20,764 --> 00:40:21,334
Veto.

950
00:40:21,334 --> 00:40:24,934
Yeah. So if I'm, if I'm my most

951
00:40:21,741 --> 00:40:24,557
Overriding the house. Go ahead.

952
00:40:24,934 --> 00:40:28,374
Pollyanna, if I can be my most Pollyanna
self for a moment,

953
00:40:28,538 --> 00:40:29,910
I'll allow it for a moment.

954
00:40:29,054 --> 00:40:30,994
here it comes for

955
00:40:30,994 --> 00:40:33,494
a moment. I would love to see Trump veto
so many things,

956
00:40:33,674 --> 00:40:37,954
like, and then just put in things that are
just so plainly like the right thing

957
00:40:37,954 --> 00:40:42,654
to do and just having veto it out of hand
that the Republicans get scared again

958
00:40:42,654 --> 00:40:44,394
about the next, the next election.

959
00:40:44,544 --> 00:40:46,924
And then all this, mean, at this point,

960
00:40:47,044 --> 00:40:48,384
if you're a democratic Senator,

961
00:40:48,534 --> 00:40:50,154
Especially if you're a new Democratic
senator,

962
00:40:50,154 --> 00:40:52,454
you're going be wondering, the hall is
just going at 2026,

963
00:40:52,514 --> 00:40:54,454
it's going 2028, we'll be back.

964
00:40:54,454 --> 00:40:57,974
And I think they might be able to get some
people to actually do a super majority.

965
00:40:57,974 --> 00:41:00,314
I'd love to see the country come together
enough to

966
00:40:59,995 --> 00:41:00,314
Mm.

967
00:41:00,314 --> 00:41:02,094
say, if something is obviously right for
the country,

968
00:41:02,234 --> 00:41:03,674
there are enough Republicans who will say,

969
00:41:03,754 --> 00:41:05,854
I'm not going to stick the party line and
go with Mr.

970
00:41:05,934 --> 00:41:10,494
Vito. I'm going to go out and vote for the
laws that our country needs.

971
00:41:10,644 --> 00:41:12,464
But that's my Pollyanna self.

972
00:41:11,186 --> 00:41:12,377
I will I would have agreed with you.

973
00:41:12,557 --> 00:41:12,927
Yeah.

974
00:41:12,927 --> 00:41:15,299
I I would have agreed with you in 2004.

975
00:41:15,449 --> 00:41:16,630
Right. Like I would have been like

976
00:41:15,737 --> 00:41:16,640
Yeah.

977
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,062
I would have said the these the the
Republicans that,

978
00:41:19,072 --> 00:41:21,073
they're they're wrong, but they're
principled,

979
00:41:21,294 --> 00:41:23,275
right? And and if and they see that Trump,

980
00:41:23,295 --> 00:41:28,229
that Trump is not a is not a dictator and
and they they no,

981
00:41:28,229 --> 00:41:32,962
I I don't I don't think that they have
much reason left in the the base that

982
00:41:32,962 --> 00:41:35,243
is still screaming MAGA. But you know,

983
00:41:35,243 --> 00:41:37,683
we'll see. I think I I think that we

984
00:41:37,258 --> 00:41:37,769
That's a point.

985
00:41:37,769 --> 00:41:40,102
They didn't get rid of anybody who could
have made a reasonable,

986
00:41:40,102 --> 00:41:41,263
rational decision in there.

987
00:41:41,847 --> 00:41:43,288
Exactly. now I'm not saying

988
00:41:43,308 --> 00:41:44,848
bring out the guillotines, right?

989
00:41:44,998 --> 00:41:47,800
I I I think that we are a nation of laws.

990
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,601
I I hate that that Republicans say that
more often than not.

991
00:41:50,751 --> 00:41:54,512
But but now that the Republicans are the
ones that have been breaking the law,

992
00:41:54,992 --> 00:41:56,793
that we can all clearly see it,

993
00:41:55,297 --> 00:41:56,297
Right?

994
00:41:56,993 --> 00:41:57,993
hopefully

995
00:41:58,093 --> 00:42:01,925
they're going to see that we also believe
that we are a nation of laws,

996
00:42:01,925 --> 00:42:04,615
and you don't own that saying in and of
its own right.

997
00:42:04,765 --> 00:42:05,059
Right.

998
00:42:05,059 --> 00:42:06,059
An override.

999
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:09,586
in the House is gonna take two hundred and
ninety votes and sixty seven

1000
00:42:09,607 --> 00:42:13,363
in the Senate. And a filibuster takes
sixty votes in the Senate.

1001
00:42:13,513 --> 00:42:16,825
So we're gonna have a little bit of power
here.

1002
00:42:16,975 --> 00:42:18,956
We're not, you know, we're we're gonna be,

1003
00:42:19,017 --> 00:42:20,618
we're gonna have the House, we're gonna
have the Senate.

1004
00:42:20,768 --> 00:42:26,372
And yeah, hopefully we can get enough
things built that even if Trump were

1005
00:42:26,372 --> 00:42:29,444
to veto it, we could just send it back and
get a two-thirds majority.

1006
00:42:29,594 --> 00:42:33,997
But, but if almost nothing becomes law for
two years,

1007
00:42:34,147 --> 00:42:35,147
what do we what what

1008
00:42:35,258 --> 00:42:39,354
What should we be focusing on as a nation
that wants to move forward with those

1009
00:42:39,354 --> 00:42:40,085
two years?

1010
00:42:40,085 --> 00:42:43,225
Well, unfortunately, it didn't buy a
safety either or didn't buy safety

1011
00:42:43,225 --> 00:42:45,765
for a lot of people who have been targeted
by this administration.

1012
00:42:45,765 --> 00:42:47,885
So we got to remember that they're still
exposed.

1013
00:42:46,195 --> 00:42:48,410
Nope, it still hasn't. Yep.

1014
00:42:48,645 --> 00:42:50,625
They had something to look forward to now,

1015
00:42:50,625 --> 00:42:54,025
but they're still exposed and they're
still vulnerable now.

1016
00:42:54,025 --> 00:42:55,057
So don't forget about them.

1017
00:42:55,207 --> 00:42:57,419
Now we are in now in control of the purse,

1018
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:00,361
right? So we are we are in control of the
money.

1019
00:43:00,381 --> 00:43:03,483
So he could they can theoretically defund
ice.

1020
00:43:03,483 --> 00:43:04,424
Now they're not going to do it,

1021
00:43:04,424 --> 00:43:08,377
let's be honest. Because they wouldn't
have a super majority to

1022
00:43:08,557 --> 00:43:11,420
be or a two-thirds majority to be able to
do those things.

1023
00:43:11,570 --> 00:43:14,301
But they can be sure a thorn their sides.

1024
00:43:14,451 --> 00:43:16,853
They can put some really like you were
saying earlier,

1025
00:43:16,853 --> 00:43:18,674
they can put some really good bills up
there.

1026
00:43:18,754 --> 00:43:20,656
That would be an obvious slam dunk.

1027
00:43:20,806 --> 00:43:24,318
with an earmark that that cuts ICE funding
and be able to do the same thing that

1028
00:43:24,318 --> 00:43:26,179
the Republicans did. look at the Saved
Act.

1029
00:43:26,179 --> 00:43:29,858
They don't, they're all communists now and
they don't they don't want to wanna save

1030
00:43:29,858 --> 00:43:31,556
America's money. It's like, yeah,

1031
00:43:31,556 --> 00:43:34,340
it's not, that's not what we were saying
no on,

1032
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:40,720
you know? Uh so I think we also we also
need to understand that that we have

1033
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:42,220
to hold these people accountable,

1034
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,982
right? Okay, great, you won. But we still
aren't done yet.

1035
00:43:46,132 --> 00:43:48,293
We have a lot, we have a lot of things
that need to get done.

1036
00:43:48,293 --> 00:43:53,176
We have a lot of things. Aguilar promised
lower costs on housing and healthcare,

1037
00:43:53,176 --> 00:43:58,028
gas, groceries, utilities. Uh Lou promised
bills to reverse the Medicaid cut,

1038
00:43:58,028 --> 00:44:01,480
right? Restore the ACA credits and stop
the Iran war.

1039
00:44:01,630 --> 00:44:06,564
And and Chuck Schumer today on television
said relief is on the way.

1040
00:44:06,714 --> 00:44:12,598
Like what? Now we need to make sure that
these people understand these things.

1041
00:44:12,748 --> 00:44:16,320
We need to make sure that these people
actually do something about it,

1042
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,461
not just make

1043
00:44:16,916 --> 00:44:17,461
Hmm.

1044
00:44:17,461 --> 00:44:20,484
all these promises. Because that's what
lost Trump this election,

1045
00:44:20,634 --> 00:44:22,095
even though he wasn't on the ballot,

1046
00:44:22,195 --> 00:44:25,768
is because he said, I'll lower grow lower
groceries on day one,

1047
00:44:25,768 --> 00:44:28,380
I'll lower gas prices, I'll I'll do all
these,

1048
00:44:28,380 --> 00:44:30,232
I'll make more jobs and all this other
stuff.

1049
00:44:30,232 --> 00:44:33,014
And look, some of that's not not in
control of the presidency.

1050
00:44:33,164 --> 00:44:35,326
Like the president doesn't control gas
prices,

1051
00:44:35,326 --> 00:44:38,358
but the president can absolutely make
decisions.

1052
00:44:38,508 --> 00:44:40,693
That control gas prices and supply

1053
00:44:39,005 --> 00:44:40,154
Like not blow up Iran.

1054
00:44:40,693 --> 00:44:42,196
and demand around the world.

1055
00:44:42,346 --> 00:44:44,295
Yeah. Also,

1056
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:44,295
know.

1057
00:44:44,295 --> 00:44:47,857
let's not forget that Trump was himself a
protest vote at the time.

1058
00:44:48,564 --> 00:44:48,939
Right.

1059
00:44:48,658 --> 00:44:48,978
And

1060
00:44:48,978 --> 00:44:52,952
so this is kind of a weird coming full
circle of a lot of things,

1061
00:44:52,952 --> 00:44:56,825
but they basically got the protest that
they wanted originally.

1062
00:44:56,825 --> 00:45:01,670
then the timing was awful. And they're
reaping the whirlwind now.

1063
00:45:01,820 --> 00:45:04,792
Yeah, I I also think it's important to to
acknowledge,

1064
00:45:04,792 --> 00:45:07,294
like you said earlier, we are still
bleeding.

1065
00:45:08,341 --> 00:45:08,626
Right.

1066
00:45:08,575 --> 00:45:08,775
And

1067
00:45:08,775 --> 00:45:11,086
it's not, you know, it's not just
minorities,

1068
00:45:11,086 --> 00:45:13,217
it's not just like it's it's a lot of us.

1069
00:45:13,218 --> 00:45:14,698
The ACA subsidies

1070
00:45:14,145 --> 00:45:14,719
Yeah.

1071
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,761
expired at the end of 2025. And I
guarantee you saw you're seeing it right

1072
00:45:18,761 --> 00:45:21,272
now on open enrollment for January 1st.

1073
00:45:19,659 --> 00:45:22,282
Mm hmm. Yep.

1074
00:45:23,834 --> 00:45:29,147
The Urban Institute and Commonwealth Fund
projected a 4.8 million dollars

1075
00:45:29,237 --> 00:45:32,919
would would actually drop in coverage on
on healthcare as a as a whole.

1076
00:45:33,069 --> 00:45:39,532
The CBS exit polls, 89% called cost of
living a major or crucial factor

1077
00:45:39,682 --> 00:45:41,972
in their in their decisions, right?

1078
00:45:42,122 --> 00:45:46,984
CNN says Trump has hinted that he could
resume the Iran war now,

1079
00:45:47,134 --> 00:45:50,426
that the midterms are over. I I I don't
know,

1080
00:45:50,426 --> 00:45:52,497
right? If if Trump what do you think?

1081
00:45:52,497 --> 00:45:53,497
If if Trump starts

1082
00:45:53,557 --> 00:45:56,499
re just restarts the the Iran war before
January.

1083
00:45:56,649 --> 00:45:59,030
Which is a a possibility. like I said,

1084
00:45:59,030 --> 00:46:02,590
some some of the things I've seen coming
out of like Texas right now are saying

1085
00:46:02,590 --> 00:46:06,191
we have to limit all of the powers of the
governor and we have to limit the powers

1086
00:46:06,341 --> 00:46:10,832
of of the senator and the politicians that
are going to be sworn into office to take

1087
00:46:10,832 --> 00:46:13,073
place before. We have to do it right now,

1088
00:46:13,073 --> 00:46:16,194
and we have to have emergency sessions to
make sure that we limit the power

1089
00:46:16,344 --> 00:46:19,594
of the government before these people take
office.

1090
00:46:19,594 --> 00:46:21,574
And if you think that that was true,

1091
00:46:21,724 --> 00:46:23,524
that's true because you're you're

1092
00:46:23,674 --> 00:46:29,333
Party regime is changing, then you should
have also thought it was true when

1093
00:46:29,333 --> 00:46:31,406
you had the ability to change those
things.

1094
00:46:31,556 --> 00:46:37,277
So what do you think Congress should do on
day one if Trump restarts this war before

1095
00:46:37,277 --> 00:46:37,728
January?

1096
00:46:37,728 --> 00:46:39,288
Fit him with an ankle bracelet.

1097
00:46:42,298 --> 00:46:43,298
what?

1098
00:46:43,616 --> 00:46:45,476
you know, fit him with one of the like,

1099
00:46:45,536 --> 00:46:46,996
you know, I want to blank out the term,

1100
00:46:47,156 --> 00:46:50,575
like house arrest, put him on house arrest
because he's going to need.

1101
00:46:49,535 --> 00:46:50,689
you think we should put Trump like

1102
00:46:50,689 --> 00:46:52,776
Victor Orban, put him on Orban arrest?

1103
00:46:52,544 --> 00:46:53,005
Yeah,

1104
00:46:53,005 --> 00:46:55,592
because he's going to jail after this if
that's what happens.

1105
00:46:55,632 --> 00:46:56,253
I I

1106
00:46:56,253 --> 00:46:59,460
hope that's true. I you are Pollyanna
about that,

1107
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:04,050
I think. I am not. I I think that Trump
will manage to fight this long enough

1108
00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:06,536
to die on his own in his house in
Marlotta.

1109
00:47:06,686 --> 00:47:10,580
If he does, then God help the Democrats
who didn't do their part

1110
00:47:10,681 --> 00:47:12,723
to get him because.

1111
00:47:11,156 --> 00:47:12,768
Agreed. He's billions

1112
00:47:12,768 --> 00:47:15,461
of dollars richer already. He that money I

1113
00:47:15,025 --> 00:47:15,461
Right.

1114
00:47:15,461 --> 00:47:18,525
guarantee you will be used to keep him at
least at home.

1115
00:47:18,675 --> 00:47:20,197
And I don't want him at Mar-a-Lago.

1116
00:47:19,335 --> 00:47:20,335
Yeah.

1117
00:47:20,347 --> 00:47:22,740
I want him, I want him, if he's broken the
law,

1118
00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:23,740
I want him in a cell.

1119
00:47:23,801 --> 00:47:24,234
Right.

1120
00:47:24,234 --> 00:47:27,517
I want him in jail. I don't even care if
it's a white-collared jail.

1121
00:47:27,517 --> 00:47:30,599
I want him in jail under monitor 247.

1122
00:47:28,536 --> 00:47:30,962
Rape. I don't even care if it's one of his
own jails.

1123
00:47:31,112 --> 00:47:32,194
Call it Trump Towers.

1124
00:47:31,569 --> 00:47:32,344
Exactly.

1125
00:47:32,344 --> 00:47:33,495
Exactly. But but here's

1126
00:47:32,573 --> 00:47:33,495
Byeeee

1127
00:47:33,495 --> 00:47:36,208
the thing. We have stopped the bleeding.

1128
00:47:36,358 --> 00:47:38,490
This election, this midterm election,

1129
00:47:38,490 --> 00:47:41,463
puts a band-aid on the wound and says

1130
00:47:41,613 --> 00:47:43,827
We have to focus on the most important
thing right now.

1131
00:47:43,827 --> 00:47:49,788
We have to stop the bleeding. Now it's
incumbent upon us to make sure that these

1132
00:47:49,788 --> 00:47:51,992
elected leaders actually do.

1133
00:47:52,142 --> 00:47:54,273
Make sure that they actually stop the
bleeding.

1134
00:47:55,027 --> 00:47:55,299
Right.

1135
00:47:55,293 --> 00:47:56,103
Voters

1136
00:47:56,103 --> 00:47:58,524
hired a party that they do not like.

1137
00:47:58,674 --> 00:48:00,235
And let's be clear, I

1138
00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:00,295
That's the only option.

1139
00:48:00,295 --> 00:48:05,156
am also an independent. I voted for a
party I didn't like because I understood

1140
00:48:05,156 --> 00:48:08,216
the assignment. Oklahoma didn't get it as
a whole,

1141
00:48:08,356 --> 00:48:10,507
but Texas did. South Carolina did,

1142
00:48:10,507 --> 00:48:14,558
North Carolina did, Iowa did. Michigan
did,

1143
00:48:13,179 --> 00:48:15,455
Well, the thing is, nobody likes either
party.

1144
00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:16,191
Maine did. Yes.

1145
00:48:15,605 --> 00:48:16,212
mean,

1146
00:48:16,212 --> 00:48:17,906
that was the only vote available,

1147
00:48:17,906 --> 00:48:19,319
was the vote for a party you didn't like.

1148
00:48:19,460 --> 00:48:21,365
Which party did you dislike less?

1149
00:48:21,515 --> 00:48:26,485
More than three in four, seventy five
percent of voters disapprove of Congress.

1150
00:48:26,635 --> 00:48:27,336
as a whole,

1151
00:48:27,336 --> 00:48:30,376
So Ram Emanuel, he said something back in
in set,

1152
00:48:30,376 --> 00:48:33,827
I think September 28th or sometime between
September 28th and October 4th,

1153
00:48:33,827 --> 00:48:35,738
right before I I left for Japan.

1154
00:48:35,738 --> 00:48:37,458
And I I really agreed with him.

1155
00:48:37,458 --> 00:48:43,560
What he said was that we need to pass
massive ethics reforms.

1156
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:46,740
I'm gonna see, let me see if I can find
here.

1157
00:48:46,890 --> 00:48:48,360
Um let's see.

1158
00:48:48,092 --> 00:48:48,944
How sad is that

1159
00:48:48,944 --> 00:48:52,320
the people we vote to represent us are the
ones we have to teach how to behave.

1160
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:55,503
So ethics reforms that that are mon
Emmanuel,

1161
00:48:55,653 --> 00:48:57,295
Ram Emanuel was talking about,

1162
00:48:57,675 --> 00:49:00,998
basically amounted to, let's see,

1163
00:49:01,148 --> 00:49:04,771
stock a stock trading ban. He w he wants
to prohibit and he well,

1164
00:49:03,763 --> 00:49:06,909
Obviously, yeah. Right.

1165
00:49:04,811 --> 00:49:07,063
he thinks we need to do this. And and I I
don't

1166
00:49:07,063 --> 00:49:09,276
disagree with him. We need a stock trading
ban,

1167
00:49:09,396 --> 00:49:11,208
we need a prediction markets ban,

1168
00:49:11,208 --> 00:49:14,711
no more couchy for senators and presidents
who actually can affect the outcome.

1169
00:49:14,861 --> 00:49:19,123
A mandatory blind trust for public
servants holding assets valued over

1170
00:49:19,123 --> 00:49:21,674
$1 million. Term limits and retirement
age.

1171
00:49:21,674 --> 00:49:28,056
He wants 75 to be the maximum age that you
can be elected to office with mandatory

1172
00:49:28,056 --> 00:49:29,587
retirement for government officials.

1173
00:49:29,737 --> 00:49:31,807
Foreign income and gift restrictions,

1174
00:49:31,807 --> 00:49:34,418
which he he wants to call the Kushner
rule.

1175
00:49:34,568 --> 00:49:38,409
Basically, it'll bar public servants from
accepting foreign-backed gifts

1176
00:49:38,409 --> 00:49:41,140
or financial backing while in office for a
set period.

1177
00:49:41,290 --> 00:49:43,402
Such as two years after leaving office.

1178
00:49:43,402 --> 00:49:48,006
So no, Emirati jets or anything like that
being gifted to your foundation for when

1179
00:49:48,006 --> 00:49:52,258
you when you leave office. And he he wants
to see massive lobbying reform,

1180
00:49:52,258 --> 00:49:55,721
clean up Washington through stricter
lobbying regulations and transparent

1181
00:49:55,721 --> 00:49:59,453
tracking of government contracts to
actually follow the money.

1182
00:49:59,554 --> 00:50:03,877
I think that's a fantastic start and might
actually carterize the bleeding.

1183
00:50:04,027 --> 00:50:05,027
What are your thoughts on that?

1184
00:50:05,068 --> 00:50:06,570
I agree with most of them. Yeah,

1185
00:50:06,590 --> 00:50:08,315
I think it's mostly a good good package.

1186
00:50:08,465 --> 00:50:10,367
And most of those, yeah, should be
obvious.

1187
00:50:10,517 --> 00:50:12,845
the whole trading ban, that should never
even be a thing.

1188
00:50:12,995 --> 00:50:15,959
why? First of all, given what Congress is
not doing,

1189
00:50:16,109 --> 00:50:18,142
how do you have the time to trade stocks?

1190
00:50:18,142 --> 00:50:19,142
no.

1191
00:50:19,372 --> 00:50:20,024
Well,

1192
00:50:20,024 --> 00:50:21,627
I can tell you how they die have the time.

1193
00:50:21,627 --> 00:50:23,130
They don't spend a whole lot of time
working.

1194
00:50:22,188 --> 00:50:23,188
I know,

1195
00:50:23,498 --> 00:50:25,181
as I'm saying, like given all they're not
doing,

1196
00:50:25,181 --> 00:50:28,794
but like, you know, that's, it's been some
more time in the office writing laws

1197
00:50:28,794 --> 00:50:31,686
and reading laws. Um, and then we'll,

1198
00:50:30,642 --> 00:50:31,642
Right.

1199
00:50:31,686 --> 00:50:34,769
then we'll talk about whether we give you
your money to use.

1200
00:50:35,614 --> 00:50:36,404
So let's talk about some

1201
00:50:35,850 --> 00:50:36,404
But yeah.

1202
00:50:36,404 --> 00:50:38,675
of these i impeachments and prosecutions
too,

1203
00:50:38,675 --> 00:50:40,196
right? To see whether or not anybody

1204
00:50:39,672 --> 00:50:40,196
Yeah.

1205
00:50:40,196 --> 00:50:42,446
actually pays for this. I think I mean,

1206
00:50:42,446 --> 00:50:44,477
honestly, with with the way that Iran's
going,

1207
00:50:44,477 --> 00:50:46,277
I think we need to get rid of Heg Seth
first.

1208
00:50:46,427 --> 00:50:49,608
I think that's that needs to be not an
impeachment,

1209
00:50:49,608 --> 00:50:54,300
just a removal. and I think if if Donald
Trump has any intention of staying

1210
00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:56,561
out of prison, it'll be one of the first
things he does.

1211
00:50:57,370 --> 00:51:00,878
Yeah, right before he renames all the
things back to their original name.

1212
00:51:01,543 --> 00:51:02,033
right.

1213
00:51:02,033 --> 00:51:06,307
And Hakeem Hakeem Jeffries actually said
last month that one of the first things

1214
00:51:06,307 --> 00:51:08,059
we're gonna do in the majority,

1215
00:51:08,059 --> 00:51:10,121
we're gonna run Pete Hegseth out of town.

1216
00:51:10,271 --> 00:51:14,525
Now let me tell you this. I want Hakeem
Jeffries forcefully retired along with

1217
00:51:14,525 --> 00:51:15,196
Chuck Schumer.

1218
00:51:15,196 --> 00:51:18,090
But he's not wrong. We need as a country,

1219
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:23,214
as the majority, to remove Pete Hegseth
from his current position.

1220
00:51:23,364 --> 00:51:26,816
And CNN, you know, and most Democrats,

1221
00:51:26,816 --> 00:51:32,131
even some Republicans, actually see him as
the first and prime impeachment target.

1222
00:51:32,281 --> 00:51:33,534
A Trump advisor actually said,

1223
00:51:33,534 --> 00:51:36,851
should any s somebody should pay for for
what Heg Seth has done?

1224
00:51:36,851 --> 00:51:40,961
So if Trump fires Heg Seth as the
scapegoat,

1225
00:51:41,111 --> 00:51:46,141
Did anybody pay? It will will that be will
that be a good a good beginning to this?

1226
00:51:46,141 --> 00:51:46,802
What do you think?

1227
00:51:46,802 --> 00:51:49,116
It's a good start, but it's not by any
means,

1228
00:51:49,386 --> 00:51:50,668
holding everybody accountable.

1229
00:51:50,818 --> 00:51:52,420
It's just one thing that has to happen.

1230
00:51:52,570 --> 00:51:53,585
I feel like for lots

1231
00:51:53,021 --> 00:51:53,585
I agree.

1232
00:51:53,585 --> 00:51:54,256
of reasons.

1233
00:51:54,256 --> 00:51:57,683
I heard I've already seen a lot of people
talking about a Trump impeachment.

1234
00:51:57,833 --> 00:51:58,885
I'll give my over under.

1235
00:51:58,417 --> 00:51:58,885
Yeah.

1236
00:51:58,885 --> 00:52:00,008
I don't think that's gonna happen.

1237
00:52:00,158 --> 00:52:01,878
I think we're out of money for that.

1238
00:52:02,118 --> 00:52:04,418
I like, do we really have time for that
kind of dog and pony show?

1239
00:52:04,568 --> 00:52:08,576
Well, my biggest thing is it would put J D
Vance in the seat of presidential power.

1240
00:52:08,726 --> 00:52:10,408
Right, that's the last thing we need.

1241
00:52:09,810 --> 00:52:11,686
Like i any

1242
00:52:11,309 --> 00:52:12,330
Although give

1243
00:52:12,330 --> 00:52:15,543
him a few months in the chair and maybe
he'll embarrass himself so badly he won't

1244
00:52:15,543 --> 00:52:19,036
run in 2028. He couldn't.

1245
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:21,982
Yeah, but we'd still have to live through
those months of of him being president.

1246
00:52:20,758 --> 00:52:21,758
That's true.

1247
00:52:22,362 --> 00:52:23,552
And and that could end up with

1248
00:52:23,552 --> 00:52:25,323
with people hurt, Um, I

1249
00:52:24,835 --> 00:52:25,323
Yeah.

1250
00:52:25,323 --> 00:52:28,955
I think, you know, Rahm Emanuel himself
actually said that we should skip Trump

1251
00:52:28,955 --> 00:52:32,146
himself, right? he basically thinks that
we're we're never gonna

1252
00:52:32,146 --> 00:52:36,738
get an impeachment. He he calls it a food
fight and and Disneyland on the Potomac.

1253
00:52:36,769 --> 00:52:38,519
Uh Robert Reich actually

1254
00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:38,519
Yeah.

1255
00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:42,140
reads his midterm push as twenty twenty
eight positioning.

1256
00:52:42,901 --> 00:52:48,684
So I don't I don't know. Um do you think
that a a president who's impeached twice

1257
00:52:48,684 --> 00:52:53,179
and walks twice makes a third one
pointless or does skipping it teach

1258
00:52:53,179 --> 00:52:54,470
the next one something worse?

1259
00:52:54,620 --> 00:52:57,273
I think everybody understands what an
impeachment,

1260
00:52:57,414 --> 00:52:59,156
how impeachment plays out now.

1261
00:52:59,306 --> 00:53:01,108
And I think there's just no point to it.

1262
00:53:01,279 --> 00:53:03,234
I think it's not going to teach anybody
anything.

1263
00:53:03,234 --> 00:53:06,243
It's just going to cost a bunch of time
and attention that we need to spend

1264
00:53:06,243 --> 00:53:06,824
elsewhere.

1265
00:53:06,824 --> 00:53:08,512
I think it's gonna cost money and lives,

1266
00:53:08,653 --> 00:53:09,104
right?

1267
00:53:09,104 --> 00:53:09,744
Yeah, I

1268
00:53:09,744 --> 00:53:12,424
think he needs to go to a before criminal
judge is what needs to go.

1269
00:53:12,484 --> 00:53:13,484
What needs to happen?

1270
00:53:13,833 --> 00:53:14,644
Right.

1271
00:53:14,644 --> 00:53:15,864
Impeachment is not good enough.

1272
00:53:16,014 --> 00:53:17,855
And for the next two years, the
prosecutions,

1273
00:53:17,855 --> 00:53:22,776
the DOJ is still entirely run by Trump's
party until January of twenty twenty nine,

1274
00:53:22,776 --> 00:53:27,607
right? France twenty-four actually calls
charges before then a long shot.

1275
00:53:27,607 --> 00:53:28,688
Now, take it for what it's worth.

1276
00:53:28,688 --> 00:53:32,864
It's a French uh thing. But House
Democrats call twenty twenty nine

1277
00:53:32,864 --> 00:53:36,965
the reckoning. Hakeem Jeffries has already
said that the the five year limit runs

1278
00:53:36,965 --> 00:53:38,265
past this administration.

1279
00:53:38,415 --> 00:53:42,813
Lou points to the Pentagon's own war
manual on the double tap boat striking.

1280
00:53:42,963 --> 00:53:45,858
What about pardons? Do you see pardons
being a thing?

1281
00:53:45,858 --> 00:53:48,883
Because he he said that he would think
about pardoning himself.

1282
00:53:49,033 --> 00:53:52,643
But welcome to the try. Let's see how that
goes over.

1283
00:53:51,584 --> 00:53:52,874
Yeah, I I don't I

1284
00:53:52,915 --> 00:53:54,075
I don't think that would go very well.

1285
00:53:54,075 --> 00:53:58,506
I think I think pardoning yourself
preemptively with being charged with

1286
00:53:58,506 --> 00:53:59,917
anything, uh,

1287
00:53:59,161 --> 00:53:59,917
Yeah.

1288
00:53:59,917 --> 00:54:03,229
I don't think you'll have the power to do
it by the time I I think that's

1289
00:54:03,229 --> 00:54:04,640
why we start with the investigations.

1290
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,992
I do think we should start investigations
into all of it and corruption

1291
00:54:07,992 --> 00:54:08,992
and everything else.

1292
00:54:09,933 --> 00:54:12,335
So let's see. Emanuel's, you know,

1293
00:54:12,335 --> 00:54:16,648
five points. We talked about Rahm Emanuel
and and all three branches are talking

1294
00:54:16,648 --> 00:54:18,519
about stock banning stock trading,

1295
00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:21,031
the prediction markets, the retirement of
seventy-five,

1296
00:54:21,031 --> 00:54:23,403
blind trust, whatever, foreign gifts and
investments.

1297
00:54:23,553 --> 00:54:28,898
Which one of these five would your your
own favorite member of Congress hate

1298
00:54:28,898 --> 00:54:29,468
the most?

1299
00:54:29,468 --> 00:54:31,479
My own favorite member of Congress?

1300
00:54:31,629 --> 00:54:34,397
Yeah, well, and not not that anybody has a
favorite member of Congress.

1301
00:54:33,095 --> 00:54:34,095
Right.

1302
00:54:34,518 --> 00:54:35,180
I just think

1303
00:54:35,180 --> 00:54:37,407
who do you think would be most impacted by
this?

1304
00:54:37,557 --> 00:54:42,337
I think there are some things out there
who would definitely suffer from not being

1305
00:54:42,337 --> 00:54:45,957
able to trade stock and I don't know how
much they've had on board with

1306
00:54:45,957 --> 00:54:48,637
the prediction markets, but the stock
trading for sure.

1307
00:54:48,637 --> 00:54:52,356
then the retirement at 75 would wipe out a
lot of senators.

1308
00:54:52,356 --> 00:54:53,336
So.

1309
00:54:53,336 --> 00:54:53,546
Thing

1310
00:54:53,546 --> 00:54:55,239
is that they would have to do it,

1311
00:54:55,314 --> 00:54:58,799
affecting themselves. I I don't see

1312
00:54:57,631 --> 00:54:58,642
Yeah, well, mean.

1313
00:54:58,799 --> 00:55:02,124
a lot of these actually being realistic
just because they'd have to vote against

1314
00:55:02,124 --> 00:55:03,065
their own interests.

1315
00:55:03,065 --> 00:55:05,248
I think if they're smart, which they're
not,

1316
00:55:05,248 --> 00:55:08,251
if they were, betting stock trading and
prediction market betting and all that,

1317
00:55:08,251 --> 00:55:11,507
that goes in your favor. Why not make it
so the temptation is not even there?

1318
00:55:11,507 --> 00:55:15,101
yes, some of them have

1319
00:55:14,628 --> 00:55:15,101
Mm.

1320
00:55:15,101 --> 00:55:16,293
profited significantly from it,

1321
00:55:16,293 --> 00:55:18,346
but there may be some people who pay for
it big time too.

1322
00:55:18,550 --> 00:55:19,940
I I guess the point of this was to go,

1323
00:55:19,940 --> 00:55:21,151
hey, we have some really cool wins,

1324
00:55:21,151 --> 00:55:23,252
right? But uh

1325
00:55:21,789 --> 00:55:22,789
Right.

1326
00:55:23,492 --> 00:55:28,084
I saw one person describe it as something
like this is game four of the World Series

1327
00:55:28,084 --> 00:55:29,415
and they've won the first three.

1328
00:55:29,565 --> 00:55:33,006
We won a game and we're talking about it
like the series is done.

1329
00:55:33,187 --> 00:55:35,908
The truth is we have to win uh three more
games.

1330
00:55:35,908 --> 00:55:37,539
I don't know how many games are in the
world series.

1331
00:55:37,539 --> 00:55:39,861
I assume it's nine because that's how many
innings they have.

1332
00:55:39,861 --> 00:55:42,117
But I I think I think that.

1333
00:55:42,321 --> 00:55:45,003
This is a really cool win and we should
absolutely take a breath.

1334
00:55:45,003 --> 00:55:47,214
I think we should absolutely separate you
know,

1335
00:55:47,214 --> 00:55:50,777
celebrate it. And and that's why we did
this this podcast today instead

1336
00:55:50,777 --> 00:55:52,088
of the one we had originally planned.

1337
00:55:52,238 --> 00:55:54,299
But we've also got to hold them
accountable to this.

1338
00:55:54,299 --> 00:55:57,261
And I expect every person who's listening
to this podcast to hold them accountable.

1339
00:55:57,411 --> 00:56:01,573
Like make sure that you are calling and
harassing them until you start seeing

1340
00:56:01,573 --> 00:56:05,836
and CNN screaming and Trump yelling and
tweeting and everything else.

1341
00:56:05,986 --> 00:56:06,506
Agreed.

1342
00:56:06,506 --> 00:56:11,062
Right. Before we go, uh I wanna to stay on
the on the good part j though just

1343
00:56:11,062 --> 00:56:14,918
for one more minute. Texas elected a
Democratic Railroad Commissioner.

1344
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,903
I don't know what that means. I don't even
know what a railroad commissioner does

1345
00:56:17,903 --> 00:56:18,314
to you.

1346
00:56:18,314 --> 00:56:19,945
So they actually control the oil.

1347
00:56:19,945 --> 00:56:21,576
It's weird they call the railroad
commissioner,

1348
00:56:21,576 --> 00:56:24,638
but they're actually more about oil and it
is a key position.

1349
00:56:24,818 --> 00:56:25,949
So it's a big deal.

1350
00:56:26,099 --> 00:56:28,711
Right. Susan Collins is out after 30
years.

1351
00:56:28,711 --> 00:56:32,905
Michigan elected the first Muslim senator
after the president spent the entire

1352
00:56:32,905 --> 00:56:36,322
campaign calling him a jihadist and
planting people to ask him why

1353
00:56:36,552 --> 00:56:38,649
why he had not denounced the Muslim
Brotherhood.

1354
00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:40,860
Here in Oklahoma, the House

1355
00:56:39,813 --> 00:56:41,015
I still don't know what his middle name is

1356
00:56:41,165 --> 00:56:45,503
right. here in Oklahoma, the House
Majority Whip lost in Bethany,

1357
00:56:45,824 --> 00:56:47,946
which has been a Republican stronghold.

1358
00:56:47,946 --> 00:56:49,277
I I watched those come in and

1359
00:56:49,427 --> 00:56:51,202
I was happy. I'm I'm still happy,

1360
00:56:51,202 --> 00:56:53,800
right? Yeah.

1361
00:56:52,297 --> 00:56:53,887
And you should be. let's look at the

1362
00:56:53,887 --> 00:56:57,649
voters who did this. They rate the
Democratic Party in a net minus six.

1363
00:56:57,799 --> 00:56:59,180
They're not happy with the Democrats.

1364
00:56:59,330 --> 00:57:00,511
That does beat the Republicans,

1365
00:57:00,511 --> 00:57:04,243
which are at a minus 18, but it's still
underwater for both parties.

1366
00:57:04,393 --> 00:57:06,174
And more than three and four, as you said
earlier,

1367
00:57:06,174 --> 00:57:10,175
disapproval of Congress. Those voters
fired somebody and they did not join

1368
00:57:10,175 --> 00:57:11,746
anything to do it. They just said,

1369
00:57:11,896 --> 00:57:16,229
I'm tired of like having to count my
pennies to go to the grocery store.

1370
00:57:16,229 --> 00:57:17,630
I guess pennies aren't even a thing
anymore,

1371
00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:18,040
are they?

1372
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,111
I count my nickels. But,

1373
00:57:18,674 --> 00:57:20,124
No, I we're not allowed to make them
anymore.

1374
00:57:20,594 --> 00:57:21,882
They'll have to take their Trump coins.

1375
00:57:20,614 --> 00:57:21,614
know, they,

1376
00:57:22,635 --> 00:57:25,816
yeah, exactly. think they're Trump dollars
or whatever.

1377
00:57:25,816 --> 00:57:27,876
um

1378
00:57:26,578 --> 00:57:27,578
huh.

1379
00:57:27,876 --> 00:57:32,497
But the person paying for gas got a new
Congress in the same bill.

1380
00:57:32,718 --> 00:57:34,198
mean, they're still going to pay for the
same,

1381
00:57:34,198 --> 00:57:36,039
like gas prices aren't going to drop
overnight.

1382
00:57:36,189 --> 00:57:40,010
And the voter in Georgia who doesn't trust
the count in Fulton County is still there.

1383
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,321
And 258 ZZ is not an answer, right?

1384
00:57:42,321 --> 00:57:42,741
I mean,

1385
00:57:42,741 --> 00:57:44,280
Only a super majority could be an answer.

1386
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,494
So we still got a lot to do.

1387
00:57:46,644 --> 00:57:49,525
Well, and that's the rest of the world is
is still watching us.

1388
00:57:49,746 --> 00:57:54,408
I saw I saw something with El Sayed and
and a reporter from Sky News,

1389
00:57:54,408 --> 00:57:58,600
you know, and and that was an interesting
piece just before we started recording.

1390
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,262
But before the v vote, you have a a French
lawmaker told the AFP that

1391
00:58:03,262 --> 00:58:06,754
a big democratic win is really not going
to change things very dramatically,

1392
00:58:06,754 --> 00:58:10,917
right? Europe spent this entire year
building what

1393
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:17,022
comes next when the United States is not
the economic powerhouse that we have been

1394
00:58:17,022 --> 00:58:19,023
for the past hundred years. Right.

1395
00:58:19,023 --> 00:58:21,394
They watched us elect him twice.

1396
00:58:21,544 --> 00:58:23,745
Now, I hate it, but it's true.

1397
00:58:23,895 --> 00:58:28,657
And this Tuesday doesn't really make them
forget it because like the White House

1398
00:58:28,657 --> 00:58:32,788
tweeted, uh sorry, excreted, uh ex
Twitter,

1399
00:58:32,788 --> 00:58:34,099
whatever, excreted

1400
00:58:33,388 --> 00:58:34,319
Yeah.

1401
00:58:34,319 --> 00:58:35,720
the morning, this morning,

1402
00:58:35,870 --> 00:58:38,498
PSA, Trump is still your president.

1403
00:58:38,648 --> 00:58:40,825
Thank you for your attention to this
matter,

1404
00:58:40,825 --> 00:58:41,506
DJT.

1405
00:58:41,506 --> 00:58:46,171
just him standing over the resolute desk
with a stern look and a a red hat,

1406
00:58:46,321 --> 00:58:48,383
saying, PSA Trump is still your president.

1407
00:58:48,383 --> 00:58:49,383
I'm still your dad.

1408
00:58:49,524 --> 00:58:51,854
Right. So what would change anybody's
mind?

1409
00:58:51,854 --> 00:58:53,555
We talked about Rahm Emanuel's list,

1410
00:58:53,705 --> 00:58:56,737
covers all three branches. We talked about
that ad nauseam,

1411
00:58:56,737 --> 00:58:57,868
so I'm not going to repeat them here.

1412
00:58:57,868 --> 00:59:01,021
But would that change anybody's mind about
the government if they were subject

1413
00:59:01,021 --> 00:59:04,093
to those rules? mean, the leaders,

1414
00:59:04,093 --> 00:59:08,096
the Republican leaders objected to the
president's exemption and a voter ID rider

1415
00:59:08,246 --> 00:59:10,408
to fine, write a clean bill. I mean,

1416
00:59:10,408 --> 00:59:10,898
I don't know.

1417
00:59:10,898 --> 00:59:12,629
Yeah, I just we can't stop there,

1418
00:59:12,629 --> 00:59:16,492
right? Because the list doesn't really
touch what actually got us here.

1419
00:59:16,642 --> 00:59:19,224
It it doesn't touch who paid for the
campaigns.

1420
00:59:19,224 --> 00:59:25,678
Mike Maisie spent two $12.9 million to buy
this election and only

1421
00:59:25,678 --> 00:59:29,120
won it by a handful of percentage points.

1422
00:59:29,854 --> 00:59:30,854
All right.

1423
00:59:31,442 --> 00:59:35,904
You know, he he literally gave himself
$12.9 million to win this campaign,

1424
00:59:36,054 --> 00:59:36,484
right?

1425
00:59:36,484 --> 00:59:38,465
We need to know who pays for campaigns,

1426
00:59:38,465 --> 00:59:42,528
who's drawing the lines, who's who's
holding these voter rolls that

1427
00:59:42,528 --> 00:59:47,221
had our name and our our driver's license
number and the last four of our social

1428
00:59:47,221 --> 00:59:51,554
and and who we had voted for in the last
election and and all of those things.

1429
00:59:51,554 --> 00:59:54,115
There's still 17 states with those files
out there.

1430
00:59:54,265 --> 00:59:58,628
Also, we need to define what a president
can and can't do with a pardon.

1431
00:59:58,778 --> 00:59:59,168
If

1432
00:59:59,168 --> 01:00:03,842
New Congress investigates for two years
and just doesn't do anything that that

1433
01:00:03,842 --> 01:00:07,173
actually limits itself, which is the key
here,

1434
01:00:07,173 --> 01:00:09,266
right? Like they have to limit themselves.

1435
01:00:09,416 --> 01:00:12,217
Then the next Congress finds, you know,

1436
01:00:12,217 --> 01:00:14,418
the nuclear codes right where Trump left
them.

1437
01:00:14,568 --> 01:00:16,620
And then Trump can veto all of this,

1438
01:00:16,620 --> 01:00:22,174
like pass it anyway. Make him veto an
ethics bill in front of everybody.

1439
01:00:22,324 --> 01:00:22,942
Then

1440
01:00:22,942 --> 01:00:23,579
Exactly.

1441
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:23,601
send it back to

1442
01:00:23,601 --> 01:00:26,748
the to the to Congress and and work on
that two-thirds majority.

1443
01:00:26,829 --> 01:00:29,254
And then see Republican senators going,

1444
01:00:29,254 --> 01:00:31,790
well, actually, if we don't pass this,

1445
01:00:31,790 --> 01:00:33,314
they're gonna burn us at the stake.

1446
01:00:33,464 --> 01:00:34,905
Right, yeah, nobody's safe.

1447
01:00:35,055 --> 01:00:37,976
So, Tuesday, when you're listening to this
in the future,

1448
01:00:37,976 --> 01:00:41,369
tomorrow, you know, tomorrow when you're
listening to this,

1449
01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:43,811
Tuesday stopped that bleeding.

1450
01:00:43,961 --> 01:00:45,963
We're not bleeding anymore.
Congratulations.

1451
01:00:45,963 --> 01:00:50,437
But the truth is, cleaning out that wound
and de briding that tissue

1452
01:00:50,587 --> 01:00:54,170
is a lot harder, right? Because some of
that rot,

1453
01:00:54,170 --> 01:00:56,822
that festering flesh is on our side.

1454
01:00:56,822 --> 01:01:01,416
Schumer, Jeffries. And the people

1455
01:01:01,566 --> 01:01:05,558
Who were actually holding the scalpel also
made money from this infection.

1456
01:01:06,117 --> 01:01:06,601
Mm.

1457
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:06,829
And

1458
01:01:06,829 --> 01:01:08,089
which is the the bigger issue.

1459
01:01:08,089 --> 01:01:11,222
JD Pritzker said, We climbed one mountain
tonight,

1460
01:01:11,222 --> 01:01:13,653
but we are sitting at the base of another.

1461
01:01:13,834 --> 01:01:16,415
And to be honest, it's a lot bigger of a
climb.

1462
01:01:16,565 --> 01:01:19,795
Nevertheless, enjoy it today, scrub in
tomorrow.

1463
01:01:19,945 --> 01:01:22,126
You can find us at fof.foundation,

1464
01:01:22,326 --> 01:01:26,477
full stop. You can find us on Apple
Podcasts and Spotify under the overlap.

1465
01:01:26,627 --> 01:01:30,638
Spell F-O-F-F. Put all that in the search
bar and find us there.

1466
01:01:30,788 --> 01:01:32,369
Give us a five-star rating while you're
there.

1467
01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:34,813
And make sure you share our podcast with
someone you care about,

1468
01:01:35,034 --> 01:01:37,818
uh that democratic socialist friend who
gets it,

1469
01:01:37,818 --> 01:01:41,145
or your your auntie who thinks Oklahoma
survived this massacre,

1470
01:01:41,145 --> 01:01:44,481
but but knows what's coming with her
roommate Audrey.

1471
01:01:44,631 --> 01:01:46,549
I don't know where that picture was going,

1472
01:01:47,173 --> 01:01:47,655
but be

1473
01:01:47,347 --> 01:01:47,655
Ha ha.

1474
01:01:47,655 --> 01:01:49,824
kind to each other and help out where you
can.

1475
01:01:49,974 --> 01:01:51,647
And what do we always say at the end these
things?

1476
01:01:51,797 --> 01:01:53,519
Bye.

1477
01:01:52,113 --> 01:01:53,737
Bye.